[Vision2020] Life after death (Was: Otter Plans Closed-Door Oath Taking)

[Donovan Arnold]

Ralph,
   
  Everyone has an afterlife, regardless of if you believe in God or not and regardless of if there is a God or not. Every person leaves something behind. 
   
  Happy New Year,
   
  Donovan J Arnold

Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:
  What a strange message, Donovan. You claim that 95% of the population 
of this country "believe in a God and afterlife", presumably 
including those who take an oath of office but "they just do what 
they do for $$$$$, not for the interests of the people they are 
suppose[d] to be serving." Or are the politicians the 5% to whom 
"number three doesn't mean anything"?

Don't you know, Donovan, that believing in God doesn't necessarily 
entail belief in an afterlife? Haven't you read the Bible? Some weeks 
ago I asked "heirdoug" to tell us how many people died and went to 
heaven in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament to Xians). He said he was 
"working on it" but he still hasn't told us the answer. Maybe you can.

Back to the Bible!

Ralph


On Dec 27, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:

> Chas,
>
> I don't trust politicians, for the most part. I think they are 
> mostly there for the purposes of self, not public service. I feel 
> that an oath of office offers at least some type of assurance that 
> the person taking the office is promising to do so for the purposes 
> of the people, not themselves.
>
> Taking a public oath of office provides three major purposes;
>
> 1) It provides an actual legal time and place of handing the office 
> from one person to another and creates a public record of the 
> person being swore into office.
>
> 2) It provides for the tradition of a place and time for people to 
> gather to say goodbye to the old people of power and a welcoming of 
> new people coming into power. It allows people to finalize the 
> previous administration, to protest it, or praise it in a public 
> manner.
>
> 3) It offers those that believe in a God and afterlife that the 
> person taking the office will use their power for the good of the 
> people and face a higher being for their actions even if we cannot 
> get to them.
>
> I know that number three doesn't mean anything to the 5% of people 
> in the country, but it does to the other 95%.
>
[snip]
>
> I don't agree with you Chas, that the office holders are 
> incompetent, I think they are very competent, they just do what 
> they do for $$$$$, not for the interests of the people they are 
> suppose to be serving.

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