[Vision2020] An illogical comparison.

Tony tonytime at clearwire.net
Tue Dec 26 21:45:54 PST 2006


David, your comment regarding my logic has me curious, which part of my 
message to Tom did you wish to comment on?

Best,  -T
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david sarff" <davesway at hotmail.com>
To: <thansen at moscow.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An illogical comparison.


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> I'd say that Tony's logic would see this as a bucket half full:
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> http://homepages.igrin.co.nz/moerewa/Pages/sinking%20dozer.jpg
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>>Tom you repeatedly post Dick Cheney's statement regarding Iraq made at the
>>time of our liberation of Kuwait without the all important context.  To
>>suggest that because something may have been unadvisable at one time  does
>>not necessarily mean it would continue to be inadvisable 15 years later.
>>Circumstances and situations change Tom.  Our relationships with other
>>world
>>leaders are not cast in concrete, but change with geopolitical
>>circumstances.  You surely realize this, so why the attempt to equate
>>Cheney's statement regarding Iraq in '91 with our invasion of '05?
>>
>>Please try to employ a modicum of fairness in your observations for the
>>benefit of the less informed who might place undue stock in illogical
>>suggestions.
>>
>>Have a pleasant New Year.          -T
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:53 PM
>>Subject: [Vision2020] The Human Toll
>>
>>
>> > "The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control
>>of
>> > the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what 
>> > we'd
>> > have to do once we got there. You'd probably have to put some new
>> > government
>> > in place. It's not clear what kind of government that would be, how 
>> > long
>> > you'd have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in
>>determining
>> > the outcome of the struggle over who's going to govern in Iraq strikes
>>me
>> > as
>> > a classic definition of a quagmire."
>> >
>> > - Dick Cheney, 1991
>> > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Cheney_Quagmire.mp3
>> >
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>> >
>> >>From the January 1, 2007 edition of the Army Times -
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