[Vision2020] Repentant Sinner my ass!

[Paul Rumelhart]

Tony,

You keep trying to frame this as "abuse".  It's not abuse when you have 
consentual sex with somebody regardless of what form it may take.  I 
understand not liking the man because he was being adulterous or 
sexually depraved because of this, but let's not bring such 
emotionally-charged words as "abuse" into this without some kind of 
evidence to back it up.

Paul

Tony wrote:

>After that last post regarding Clinton's abuse of Monica Lewinski, It 
>occurred to me that those with little knowledge of the Clinton fiasco might 
>misunderstand my reference to his documented behaviors.  I am concerned that 
>some youngsters, unaware of the specifics of Clinton's abuse, might think I 
>was using a slang term for the male reproductive organ when I reported that 
>Clinton apparently inserted his cigar into intern Lewinski's private spot. 
>In the interest of accuracy and out of respect for today's youth and their 
>right to an accurate account of history, let me be clear:  Former President 
>Clinton was reported to have inserted a cigar, the kind he periodically 
>smoked, into the aforementioned intern.  He was also reported to have 
>received oral sex while discussing sensitive national security issues with 
>congressman via phone.
>
>Boys and girls, the left does not want you to learn what a depraved creep 
>Clinton was.  They adore him because he pushed for their political issues 
>and causes so they deliberately ignored his abuse of woman.  Said abuse also 
>included several accusations or RAPE.  I support the right of today's youth 
>to be informed rather than manipulated, so the next time you hear about what 
>a great guy ole Clinton was, you can refer to this message for the truth.
>
>Just hit print and thank me later.
>
>Peace out,    -T
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>To: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 11:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Repentant Sinner my ass!
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>>Just as there will always be those who insisted on abandoning the South
>>Vietnamese and Cambodians to communist tyranny, there will always be those
>>who deny the written historical record regarding our liberation of Iraq.
>>
>>Clinton, a clinical, megalomaniacal psychopath, hasn't a sincere bone in 
>>his
>>body and would only consider the views of a minister in a short skirt. 
>>Bush
>>rallied the American patriots with his Patton-esque "bring them on."  It 
>>was
>>a great piece of leadership, reminiscent of Churchill.  Bush is every bit 
>>as
>>intelligent and astute as some socially isolated, outcast egghead on the
>>Palouse.
>>
>>The difference between President Bush and clinton is that Bush would have
>>told Monica to pull her skirt back up and act like a lady.  Clinton, the
>>juvinile left's beloved icon, humiliated her for LIFE when he inserted his
>>cigar in her vagina and after otherwise violating his trust, then DENIED 
>>his
>>responsibility before her and the American People.  Clinton was and will
>>always be a sick male of BAD CHARACTER, undeserving of respect even from
>>those willing to enable his abuse of woman in order to realize their own
>>selfish political goals.
>>
>>"In America, anybody can be a college professor.  It's one of the risks 
>>you
>>take."       -T
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
>>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:31 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Repentant Sinner Swarmed in Hanoi
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>>>Greetings:
>>>
>>>Just as there will always be those who say that the Johnson did not lie
>>>and deceive (Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, one specific), there will always
>>>be those who will always say that the Bush administration did not
>>>misrepresent and deceive about Iraq, even when the facts are clear that 
>>>it
>>>did.
>>>
>>>Clinton admitted that he had made a mistake and sought forgiveness and
>>>repentence with his minister.  Bush only regrets that he said "bring them
>>>on," but nothing else.  He said that it was not a very sophisticated 
>>>thing
>>>to say, but when has this simpleton ever said anything of substance?
>>>
>>>This is the great moral difference between these two men, and that is why
>>>Clinton is admired around the world. and in two years Bush will not dare
>>>appear in a completely public forum in any capital in the world. Crawford
>>>will be a nice refuge for him, and many will say "good riddance," an
>>>immature and ill informed man who became president because of his name.
>>>
>>>World opinion is a powerful force and it will take decades for us to
>>>rebuild our reputation and credibility in the world.
>>>
>>>Nick Gier
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