[Vision2020] Out of His/Her mouth come blessings and curses!

[Ralph Nielsen]

Doug, you certainly have a peculiar way of reading the Bible. Yahweh  
(the LORD) God did not "forgive" David's sin of adultery and murder.  
He made David's newborn baby pay for it.

The prophet Nathan said, "Yahweh has remitted your sin; you shall not  
die. However, because you have utterly scorned Yahweh, even the child  
about to be born to you shall die."

Then we read, "Yahweh afflicted the child that Uriah's wife had borne  
to David, and it became critically ill. ... On the seventh day the  
child died." (2 Samuel 12:13-14, 15b, 18).

The sin of adultery and murder demanded the punishment of death. So  
why did Yahweh God kill the innocent baby instead of its guilty  
father? Because he had already promised to do exactly that. See the  
so-called Ten Commandments, 1st edition, "I, Yahweh your God, am an  
impassioned God, visiting the guilt of the parents upon the  
children... (Exodus 20:5). See also the Ten Commandments, 2nd  
edition, Exodus 34:7).

Neither was David "set free from the bondage of Sin and Death." After  
hearing that the child was dead, David mourned, "Can I bring him back  
again? I shall go to him, but he shall never come back to me" (1  
Samuel 12:21). Eventually David will die too, and go down to Sheol to  
join his dead son. This is not a reference to heaven, where only  
Yahweh and his heavenly household reside. We all go down to the same  
place, Sheol, regardless of whether we have been righteous or not.  
"All go to one place; all are from the dust, and all turn to dust  
again" (Ecclesiastes 3:20).

Some day we, too, will turn to dust again, Doug. Doesn't the  
knowledge of that humble you?

Ralph



[Vision2020] Out of His/Her mouth come blessings and curses!

heirdoug at netscape.net heirdoug at netscape.net
Tue Dec 5 17:14:21 PST 2006

Yes Artie, he did.

But, God forgave him after he repented of his sin against God and
against his soldier. He also lost a child as a result of his sin. That
is why I choose to identify with David. He was a guy that truly loved
the Lord. And the living God truly loved him.

Yes Artie, we are all just sinners set free from the bondage of Sin and
Death. You should be so fortunate to have this wonderful freedom in
your life!