[Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 23 18:08:12 PDT 2006


Wouldnae it also be a case of destruction of private property as the flag 
was owned by a specific entity and stolen from its place of "residence"?  So 
it would be a duel charge of B&E and Destruction Of Private 
Property....normally?

J  :]





>From: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>
>To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,  
>       <thansen at moscow.com>, <joekc at adelphia.net>, <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:55:19 -0700
>
>The crucial difference is that the rainbow flag was first stolen, then
>trashed.  The issue was not free speech, but robbery.
>BL
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>To: <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>; <thansen at moscow.com>;
><joekc at adelphia.net>; <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!
>
>
> > Donovan,
> >
> > Wasn't that flag thrown in the trash can and not burned? I remember the
>flag
> > still in tact when I saw it.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > >From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> > >To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>, "'Joe Campbell'"
><joekc at adelphia.net>,
> > >        "'Tony Simpson'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> > >CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!
> > >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:53:56 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Tom,
> > >
> > >  If someone burns a flag of a country, nation or group of  people,  I
> > >consider it an act of aggression and/or  ill will  towards those 
>people.
>I
> > >responded that way when several of my  senatorial colleagues in ASUI
>burned
> > >the Gay Straight Alliance Flag--as  did many others.
> > >
> > >  If someone protests against a war or  action of the US within the US
>they
> > >can do so without burning a flag,  spitting on US Soldiers, or 
>destroying
> > >public or private property.
> > >
> > >   So yes, I think someone that burns a US Flag should be watched more
> > >carefully, and I think they are people that are disrespecting the  
>United
> > >States and all the people in it. I consider an attack on a US  Naval 
>ROTC
> > >Building an attack on the US--especially one that my Dad was  attending
> > >during the 60s.
> > >
> > >   Best,
> > >
> > >   _DJA
> > >
> > >Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:              v\:*
> > >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:*
> > >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
> > >     st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                    Arnold
> > >stated:
> > >
> > >     "It is easier to find those that  hate and wish real harm to the
> > >United    States if you allow them to burn a flag."
> > >
> > >     Are you suggesting that all those students  and anti-war 
>protestors
> > >during Vietnam  hated and wished real harm to the United States,  
>Arnold?
> > >
> > >     Campuses (just to name a few) at:
> > >
> > >     University of Virginia
> > >
> > >     University of California at Berkeley
> > >
> > >     Kent State University
> > >
> > >     UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO
> > >     (Be careful here, Arnold.  My wife attended UI during the late 
>60's.
> > >Yes.  There were  major demonstrations which included (on one occasion
> > >burning a US  flag and an attempt to burn down the Navy ROTC building)
> > >
> > >     Thoughts?
> > >
> > >     Tom Hansen
> > >
> > >             ********************************************
> > >
> > >   "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
> > >
> > >   - Thomas Jefferson
> > >
> > >   ********************************************
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >---------------------------------
> > >
> > >     From:  vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> > >[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
> > >   Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:26  PM
> > >   To: Joe Campbell; Tony Simpson
> > >   Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >   Subject: Re: [Vision2020]  Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's
>ass!
> > >
> > >
> > >     "I think that the question of whether flag burning is or is not
> > >speech
> > >   is not so  clear." Joe Campbell
> > >
> > >   Isn't it  that every American Flag eventually gets burned?
> > >
> > >   A flag is  speech, that is all it is, how you burn it and for what
> > >reasons I think
> > >   speaks  volumes.
> > >
> > >   It is easier  to find those that hate and wish real harm to the
> > >   United States if you allow them to  burn a flag.
> > >
> > >   Best,
> > >
> > >   _DJA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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