[Vision2020] An Inconvenient Truth: What you gonna do?

Wed Aug 23 12:24:51 PDT 2006

So Arnold's compassionate response to a one-income family with 2 or three 
children, who not only rely on the family car to get to and from work, but 
also to get their 2 or 3 chiildren to school is:

1)  Increase tax on gasoline by $4 per gallon (raising the cost to $7 per 
gallon).

2)  Increasing that family's annual tax liability by $10,000.

Ultimately only the rich will have cars and families.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Megan Prusynski <megan at meganpru.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Inconvenient Truth: What you gonna do?
>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:09:43 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Megan,
>
>  It seems to me that the major problem with global  warming is that we 
>simply have too many people and are reliance on  fossil fuel. I think the 
>best thing to do for the environment would be  to put an additional $4 a 
>gallon tax on gasoline, raise taxes about  $10K on those with more than one 
>child, and heavily tax the production  and sale of junk and fast food. This 
>would eliminate fossil fuels,  reduce the population, and smash our record 
>levels of obesity that has  resulted in unprecedented amount of resources 
>being consumed to treat  health problems we should not be having. Thank you 
>for trying to make  the world a better place.
>
>   Best,
>
>   _DJA
>
>
>
>Megan Prusynski <megan at meganpru.com> wrote:  I  haven't seen the movie yet 
>(gasp!) since I've been traveling a lot  lately, but I do plan to see it. I 
>find it rather funny that Al Gore's  lifestyle, like most politicians, is 
>pretty much the opposite of how we  need to be living if we hope to combat 
>global warming... but at least  he's willing to admit global warming is a 
>serious threat, and that it  exists.
>I think it is up  to each individual to change their lifestyle and make 
>some sacrifices  for the environment's sake, obviously waiting for our 
>government to  take action on global warming isn't working so well. 
>Americans don't  usually like to be told that they need to make sacrifices, 
>though, but  there are a lot of little things we can do to create positive 
>change  that are relatively easy. I've been trying consciously to decrease 
>my  footprint the last few years, so I have some ideas on where to start,  
>but obviously these things need to happen on a grand scale...
>So  here's what I've done recently in a small effort to make my lifestyle  
>line up with my ideals and try to curb global warming...
>1.  Went vegetarian. Best decision I have ever made. I won't discuss all of 
>  the numerous reasons I made this decision (animal welfare, aversion to  
>factory farming, health, world hunger, beliefs, etc...) but a major  reason 
>was the environment. Nearly half the water and 80% of the  agricultural 
>land in this country are used to raise animals for food.  More than 
>one-third of all the fossil fuels produced in the US are used  to raise 
>animals for food. Eating lower on the food chain is simply  less wasteful: 
>it takes about 20 times more energy to produce meat than  it does to 
>produce plants for food. If more of us ate a plant-based  diet instead of a 
>meat-based one, we would lower our energy needs,  contribute a hell of a 
>lot less pollution, and save precious water and  land resources as well. 
>(Check out http://www.goveg.com/environment.asp for more info).
>2.  Converted my car to run on bio-fuels and invested in a bike trailer.  
>For in-town errands, my boyfriend and I use a bike with a trailer that  
>fits all our groceries. For road trips, we use our newly converted VW  bus 
>that runs on waste veggie oil & bio-diesel. Bio-fuels are  carbon-neutral 
>(the plants used to grow them compensate for the carbon  emitted when they 
>are burned), have lower emissions, and can be grown  domestically, reducing 
>our need for foreign oil (and therefore war!).  Any diesel vehicle can be 
>converted to run on waste vegetable oil by  installing a kit with an extra 
>veggie oil tank. If you're interested,  I'm sure my boyfriend (an 
>engineering alumni from UI) wouldn't mind  making a living off of 
>converting vehicles. Running on grease is better  for longer trips, since 
>you have to warm up on diesel or bio-diesel,  and yes, the exhaust does 
>smell like french fries. Speaking of veggie  oil, does anyone know of any 
>restaurants (other than the Breakfast
>  Club, who graciously supplies us with oil each week) that want a better  
>way to recycle their waste vegetable oil from fryers? Bio-fuels are  only 
>one of many many alternative energy & fuel sources that I hope  become more 
>popular.
>3.  I'm in the process (always) of learning to live more simply, eat more  
>locally-grown food, and simply thinking about the environmental  
>consequences of every action. By being more conscious and spreading  that 
>consciousness, we can make green living the norm. Society needs to  work 
>towards sustainability, one person at a time.
>Just  thought I'd share my ideas on the subject of living more sustainably  
>and curbing global warming through a change in lifestyle. What is  everyone 
>else doing to help this problem? :)
>peace!
>~megan
>
>
>[Vision2020] Inconvenient Truth: What you gonna do?
>Nils Peterson nils_peterson at wsu.edu
>Tue Aug 22 06:40:42 PDT 2006
>
>
>So did you see Al Gore's movie? My sister, the infamous 'Rock Doc' of the
>DNews went, prepared to debunk Gore's latest invention since the Internet.
>She came away saying the science was solid, but not saying she had any
>actions in mind.
>
>
>My immediate thoughts are along the lines of conservation rather than
>running out to by a Prius.
>
>
>Which folds into another thought that has passed through v2020. I posted a
>response to talk about making an 'internal bypass' of Hwy 8 along the old 
>RR
>route between downtown and UI. Aaron Ament later told me he'd biked the
>route to look closer.
>
>
>If we were to heed Gore and cut car trips down we wouldn't need the bypass.
>Just a thought
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