[Vision2020] Time for True Debate on Iraq (Molly Ivins)

[Tom Hansen]

>From today's (August 23, 2006) Spokesman Review -

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Time for true debate on Iraq 
Molly Ivins 
August 23, 2006

Royal Masset, a Texas Republican political consultant who has been accused
of being less than brilliant, recently had this to say about Karl Rove: "I
think we actually like Karl a lot more now than we did when he was more
active locally." He told the San Antonio Express-News he believed that Rove
in Washington is remaining loyal to Bush while "fighting the good fight.
He's fighting budgets. He's fighting wars. He's doing conservative kinds of
things." 

When Rove was in Texas, Masset continued, "there was a real sense of him
being a total self-centered (person) who didn't care about anybody. He would
literally destroy people who tried to oppose him." 
 
The Bushies are having the hardest time trying to un-lie now. For example,
at his Monday press conference, the president asserted, "Nobody's ever
suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the (Sept. 11)
attack." 

How true: What Vice President Cheney in December 2001 said about links
between Sept. 11 and Iraq was that it was "pretty well confirmed" that
hijacking ringleader Mohammed Atta had met with Iraqi intelligence. On June
17, 2004, Cheney said: "We have never been able to confirm that, nor have we
been able to knock it down, we just don't know. . I can't refute the Czech
claim, I can't prove the Czech claim, I just don't know." 

In July 2004, the CIA's own report stated it does not have "any credible
information" that the alleged meeting ever took place. The CIA said the
whole concoction was based on a single source "whose veracity ... has been
questioned" and that the Iraqi official allegedly involved was in U.S.
custody and denied the meeting ever took place. The Sept. 11 commission had
already concluded the meeting never occurred. 

Cheney has a consistent pattern of exaggeration on intelligence related to
Iraq. The tragedy is that at least half the American people believed Saddam
Hussein was connected to the Sept. 11 plot - and most soldiers serving in
Iraq still believe this. 

It's pretty embarrassing when the British intelligence services, MI5 and
MI6, accuse the FBI of leaking like a sieve. British intelligence has a
lengthy history in the leaking-like-a-sieve department - so that's some pot
calling our kettle black. Nevertheless, they are making the point that our
leaks about the "liquid terror" plot have pretty well bollixed up the case.
Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott was so annoyed he referred to the entire
Bush performance in the Middle East as "crap." This truth-telling has gone
too far. 

Or, come to think of it, maybe it's just begun - and it's high damn time we
got on with it. I'd suggest starting with the reality on the ground. Iraq is
a disaster. The most credible estimate of how long it would take to fix it -
if it is fixable - is another 10 to 25 years and a commensurate amount of
dollars. Is it doable? Is it worth it? What are the consequences if we do or
do not continue the effort? What are the consequences if the most likely
result of our withdrawal - partition into three parts - takes place? (That's
also a likely consequence of our staying.) 

It seems to me that those who advocate withdrawal ASAP have just as much of
a duty to make the arguments for doing so - and to admit how much they don't
know - as those who got us into this mess five years ago with that titanic
combination of misinformation and ignorance. 

Let's start with what Donald Rumsfeld once described as "the known unknowns"
and then see how far we get. Let's have what we should have had at the
beginning - as informed and unideological a debate as possible, with
attention to the effects on our allies and the region. Onward.

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Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho


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"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"

- Thomas Jefferson

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