[Vision2020] Celebrate freedom

Tue Aug 22 11:21:35 PDT 2006

This is four for me, Tony, so I'll keep it short. Sorry to the others but I can't help replying.

I understand that members of the new right love to call academics and other professionals "elitists." It upsets me that this lame strategy is so effective -- anyone care to speculate about the general public's impressions of philosophy professors? -- but other than that it doesn't bother me too much. 

The fact is I lived in a single-parent household (the youngest of six kids) and below the poverty level for most of my pre-adult life; I have a sister with cerebral palsy; a brother who fought in the Viet Nam war (drafted after my father left home); another sister who died of breast cancer; ... I'll spare you the other examples.

I'm not trying to flex my white-trash muscles here -- even though they are considerable. I'm just trying to say that accusations of my elitism speak more to your propensity to prejudge folks you don't even know than anything else.

--
Joe Campbell

---- Tony Simpson <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote: 

=============
JOE LOGIC, apparently listening closely is not your strong suit.  No, I did 
not say that I necessarily knew as much about the constitution as a lawyer. 
I said, J.L., that we were both well informed, just not necessarily in the 
exact same areas.  Get that this time Teach?

It's you, Mr. Logic, who does not respect those who have educated 
themselves.  A typically arrogant and dismissive, elitist position - 
precisely what I would expect from a self important academic.

Now go grade a paper or something.

--Tony
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: "Tony Simpson" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
Cc: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>; 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom

> Tony,
>
> Are you comparing yourself to Lincoln? Well, I know a bit about Lincoln, 
> Hon, and you're no Lincoln! I know Sunil, too, and you're no Sunil either. 
> I'll wait for the snotty comeback but it won't change the facts one bit.
>
> I love this new American dream of yours where you can learn as much about 
> the Constitution as a lawyer in the privacy of your own home! Still I long 
> for the old days when respect for education, experience, and people in 
> general was more common among conservatives like yourself.
>
> Where have you gone, Abraham?
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---- Tony Simpson <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> Sunil,
>
> Me mistaking myself for your wife?  I'm afraid I have absolutely no idea
> what you are talking about.  But pal, that equation would NEVER work out
> THAT way.  The reason for the "hon" comment is old news, weren't you 
> paying
> attention councilor?
>
> Ya' know, Your fancy pants law degree really doesn't mean SHIT to me, 
> Sunil.
> Abraham Lincoln had no formal schooling yet he was as brilliant and
> persuasive as any "credentialed" man of his time.  As it is with you and 
> I.
> We are both very well informed, just not necessarily in the same exact
> areas.  You could really do with a dose of humility, Mr. Constitutional 
> law
> hotshot.
>
> Now go sue somebody or something.....       -Tony
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom
>
>
>> For someone who comes across as a homophobe, Tony, it's odd to find you
>> mistaking yourself for my wife.  However, it prepared me for finding your
>> response to Andreas and your use of the endearment, 'Hon,' for him.  Hey,
>> not that there's anything wrong with it, but does his wife know about
>> this?
>>
>> But since you're neither she nor the boss of me, I guess I'm allowed to
>> change the subject.
>>
>> I will give you one clue about how I passed the bar exam, since you
>> brought
>> it up:  On the Constitutional law section, I discussed the established 
>> law
>> of the United States, not the imagined law and jurisprudence of Tony
>> Simpson.  Until you're the Fuhrer, I will recommend this approach to 
>> those
>> preparing for that exam.
>>
>> I understand that you oppose flag burning.  That puts you with almost the
>> entire population of the United States, since this hardly ever happens.
>> I've never seen it in person; have you?  But saying it's not speech does
>> not
>> make you right, even if you say it in multiple posts.  It's also pretty
>> ineffective speech, but speech it still is.
>>
>> Sunil
>>
>>
>>>From: "Tony Simpson" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>>CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom
>>>Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:29:17 -0700
>>>
>>>Sunil,
>>>
>>>No, you are not going to be allowed to change the subject.  Address my
>>>point about the difference between license and freedom.
>>>
>>>Standing in opposition to double talking lawyers,  --Tony
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunil Ramalingam"
>>><sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:44 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom
>>>
>>>
>>
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