[Vision2020] Celebrate freedom
Tony Simpson
tonytime at clearwire.net
Mon Aug 21 08:31:52 PDT 2006
Sunil favors protecting the licentious actions of morons and is unable to
distinguish them from legitimate free expression. How'd he EVER pass the
bar??
--Tony
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of dumb--ass liberal ideas is for
clear thinking Americans to do nothing." --Tony Simpson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom
> Tony favors retaining the right to free expression to those who share
> opinions approved of by him and other statists.
>
> Sunil
>
>
>>From: "James Reynolds" <chapandmaize at hotmail.com>
>>To: <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>CC: Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's
>>ass!
>>Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:04:05 -0700
>>
>>This line is what makes your arguments hollow Tony.
>>
>>"Those who consistently favor state control verses local autonomy and
>>freedom, are enemies."
>>
>>How can you advocate all the controls to be placed upon the citizenry (no
>>flags will be burned, no gays will be wed, no women will have abortion
>>etc...) and yet claim to be for freedom. I think you are your own worst
>>enemy. You come across as a mean spirited crass individual who only wishes
>>to lord his will over others.
>>
>>Forget it buddy, keep your controlling ideas away from me.
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: tonytime at clearwire.net> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com> Date: Mon, 21 Aug
>>2006 01:34:17 -0700> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
>>Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!> > Yes Keely, you might
>>support my right to free speech, as it is acknowledged > within the Bill
>>of
>>Rights. That is nice and all, but irrelevant. Flag > burning is not
>>speech. It is thoughtless and ungrateful acting out, as I > correctly
>>noted in my original post.> > Those who consistently support policies
>>which
>>would favor America's enemies > are enemies as well. Those who
>>consistently favor state control verses > local autonomy and freedom, are
>>enemies. Those who wish to disarm peaceful > citizens, leaving them and
>>their families vulnerable to state tyranny or > civilian crime, are
>>enemies. Those who advocate the premeditated murder of > the most
>>helpless
>>among us, are enemies. Those who feel the government is > justified in
>>taking from one American the fruits of his production, and > giving it to
>>another who chooses not to produce, are enemies.> > They of course would
>>prefer not to be regarded as such. Indeed, they may > actually regard
>>themselves as patriots, but the fact remains that their > behavior speaks
>>for itself. Irrelevant apples and oranges comparisons > notwithstanding.>
>> >
>>Still fed up with America's domestic enemies, -Tony> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > --Tony> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "keely emerinemix"
>><kjajmix1 at msn.com>> To: <tonytime at clearwire.net>; <london at moscow.com>> Cc:
>><vision2020 at moscow.com>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:05 PM> Subject:
>>Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick a flag--burner's ass!> > > >
>>Because "subversive hippie" Bill London is my friend, and because Tony > >
>>considers him, me, and others like us to be America's "domestic enemies" >
>> > when we defend the rights of people to do things that are offensive --
>> > > such as "desecrating" a flag, as Bill put it -- I feel compelled to
>>note > > that when we find Tony's speech to be sickening, vituperative,
>>destructive > > and nasty, we still defend his right to say it.> >> >
>>Which, I can't help but think, is a good indicator of one's loyalty to the
>> > > principles of the Constitution guiding one's nation. Kinda not an
>>enemy > > position in my mind.> >> > keely> >> >> > From: "Tony Simpson"
>><tonytime at clearwire.net>> > To: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>> > CC:
>>vision2020 at moscow.com> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Celebrate freedom, kick
>>a flag--burner's ass!> > Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:28:33 -0700> >> > Leave
>>it to a subversive Hippie like Bill London to praise those who would> >
>>burn the American flag. Pathetic and loathsome. Flower child London > >
>>says,> > "If I chose to desecrate a flag by burning it in an open
>>place....
>>so > > what?> > That is free speech."> >> > What pure, unadulterated
>>horseshit! There is no speech involved in such a> > juvenile,
>>thoughtless,
>>ungrateful and snotnosed activity. It is> > unpatriotic, typically
>>liberal
>>acting out. If that is free speech, Billy> > Boy, then it would be free
>>speech for me to walk up to said burner and > > bury> > my boot a foot up
>>his terrorist--enabling ass!> >> > Sick to death of America's domestic
>>enemies, --TONY> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Bill London"
>><london at moscow.com>> > To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>;
>><kerrybecker6924 at hotmail.com>;> > <sslund at adelphia.net>;
>><vision2020 at moscow.com>> > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:13 AM> >
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening> >> >> > > Since
>>you
>>asked.....> > > a few of my reasons why I think a Constitutional amendment
>>against> > > desecrating the flag is stupid....> > > 1. what is the
>>problem? how many descrated flags are there?> > > 2. if I own the flag
>>and
>>choose to desecrate it by burning it in an open> > > place that will not
>>cause a general fire, so what? That is free speech.> > > The flag is a
>>symbol, and burning it is Constitutionally-protected.> > > 3. what is
>>desecration? wearing a flag on the butt of your jeans?> > > wrapping> > >
>>your used car in flags to sell it at a used car lot? getting a tattoo > >
>> > of> > > flag upside down? Boy Scouts burning old flags?> > > BL> > >>
>> > >
>> >> > >> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----> > > From: "Matt Decker"
>><mattd2107 at hotmail.com>> > > To: <london at moscow.com>;
>><kerrybecker6924 at hotmail.com>;> > > <sslund at adelphia.net>;
>><vision2020 at moscow.com>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:21 PM> > >
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening> > >> > >> > >> Mr.
>>London,> > >>> > >> And just as they should. Why shouldn't the congress
>>take one day out of> > >> their schedule in order to make flag burning an
>>offense? If they focus> > on> > >> baseball why not on the flag?> > >>> >
>> >> Matt> > >>> > >>> > >> >From: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>> > >>
>> >To: "kerry becker" <kerrybecker6924 at hotmail.com>,> >
>><sslund at adelphia.net>,> > >> > <vision2020 at moscow.com>> > >> >Subject:
>>Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening> > >> >Date: Thu, 17 Aug
>>2006
>>12:33:43 -0700> > >> >> > >> >Yes, it is true that Chicago has (for the
>>reasons Ms. Lund has> > > enumerated)> > >> >banned foie gras, because of
>>the disgusting and inhumane way the birds> > > are> > >> >force-fed to
>>create these inflated livers. Chicago has not banned > > >> >duck> > >>
>> >liver, only foie gras.> > >> >And as for the reason, it's all a question
>>of values, as the> > Republicans> > >> >say every year when they try to
>>amend the US Constitution to end the> > >> >non-existant problem of people
>>burning US flags.> > >> >BL> > >> > ----- Original Message -----> > >> >
>> From: kerry becker> > >> > To: sslund at adelphia.net ;
>>vision2020 at moscow.com> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:56 PM>
>> >
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening> > >> >> >
>> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > This is absurd. The city
>>of Chicago has taken the time to ban duck> > >> >liver?? - Meanwhile the
>>inner city runs rampant with crime, poverty > > >> >and> > >> >drugs. Odd
>>really.> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> >
>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------->
>> > > -> > >> >> > >> > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>> >
>> >> > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>> > >> > Subject: Re:
>>[Vision2020] West of Paris, Grand Opening> > >> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug
>>2006 15:38:46 -0700> > >> > >Visionaries:> > >> > >> > >> > >I
>>have debated and debated about whether to post this or not, > > >> > but>
>> >
>> > I'd> > >> >hate> > >> > >for an unsuspecting person to go to West
>> > of
>>Paris only to be> > >> >horrified.> > >> > >> > >> > >I was deeply
>>disappointed to see that West of Paris will be> > >> > selling> > >>
>> >foie>
>> > >> > >gras:> > >> >
>> >http://www.westofparis.com/dinner_menu.html> > >> > >For that reason
>>alone, I will refuse to patronize the business,> > no> > >> >matter> > >>
>> >
>> >how delicious other menu items look or sound -- it's a matter of> >
>> >> >ethics for> > >> > >me.> > >> > >> > >> > >The process
>>used to make foie gras is animal cruelty, pure and> > > simple> > >> >
>>:-(((> > >> > >Fifteen nations (including the UK, the Czech Republic,
>>Denmark,> > >> >Finland,> > >> > >Germany, Luxembourg, Norway, Poland,
>>Sweden, Switzerland, and> > > Israel> > >> >--> > >> > >formerly the
>>fourth largest producer in the world) have banned> > >> >force-feeding> >
>> >> > >birds for foie gras production. The City of Chicago has
>> >> > banned>
>> > >> > the> > >> >sale of> > >> > >foie gras, and Philadelphia is
>>likely to follow. Beginning > > >> > 2012,> > > the> > >> >
>> >production and sale of foie gras from force-fed birds will be> > >
>>banned> > >> >in the> > >> > >State of California.> > >> > >> > >>
>> > >I won't go into the horrifying and graphic details of how foie> >
>> >> > gras> > >> >is> > >> > >produced, but for those who want to
>> >> > learn
>>more, you can check> > out:> > >> >
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras> > >> > >You can also Google
>>it, but WARNING: there's a lot of deeply> > >> >disturbing> > >> >
>> >(although accurate) information and photos you'll find.> > >> > >> >
>> >> > >Very disappointing that foie gras will be sold in *any* Moscow>
>> > >> >restaurant> > >> > >:-(((> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
>> >JMNSHO,> > >> > >Saundra Lund> > >> > >Moscow, ID> > >> >
>> >>
>> > >> > >The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good>
>> > >> > people> > >> >to do> > >> > >nothing.> > >> > >- Edmund
>>Burke> > >> > >> > >> > >***** Original material contained herein
>>is Copyright 2006,> > >> > Saundra> > >> >Lund.> > >> > >Do not copy,
>>forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision> > >> > 2020> > >>
>> >forum> > >> > >without the express written permission of the
>>author.*****> > >> > >> > >> > >-----Original Message-----> > >> >
>> >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com> > >>
>> >[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]> > >> > >On Behalf Of Daniel
>>Foucachon> > >> > >Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 7:59 PM> > >> >
>> >To: vision2020 at moscow.com> > >> > >Subject: [Vision2020] West of
>>Paris, Grand Opening> > >> > >> > >> > > West of > > >> >
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