[Vision2020] Doubts Linger in JonBenet Case

Art Deco deco at moscow.com
Fri Aug 18 19:19:42 PDT 2006 

Having lived in a place once where certain LEOs planted drug evidence with 
some degree of regularity, I am not sure that 999 out of 1000 is an accurate 
guess.

W,
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
To: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
Cc: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Doubts Linger in JonBenet Case


>> DNA evidence brings its own set of questions.  One then is:  Was the DNA
>> evidence sent to the test lab a plant?
>
> In 999 cases out of 1000, this is idiotic conspiracy theorizing.
>
> -- ACS
>
>> W.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
>> To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> Cc: "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Joan Opyr"
>> <joanopyr at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 7:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Doubts Linger in JonBenet Case
>>
>>
>> >I have fears that they do not have the right guy in the JonBenet case.
>> >
>> > My only hope is that there is something that the authorities know about
>> > which we don't. Otherwise it seems that the actions of the authorities 
>> > are
>> > pretty irresponsible. Last night on CNN it was reported that no one has
>> > even talked with Karr's ex-wife about any of this, not before Karr's
>> > arrest and not after his arrest when she put in a call to the police in
>> > Colorado telling them that Karr was with her in Atlanta at the time of
>> > JonBenet's murder. Again, hopefully they know something we don't know. 
>> > In
>> > any event, the DNA evidence should clear things up soon.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Joe Campbell
>> >
>> > ---- Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > =============
>> >>From today's (August 18, 2006) Spokesman Review -
>> >
>> >>From the article:
>> >
>> > "If John Mark Karr is telling the truth, he picked up 6-year-old 
>> > JonBenet
>> > Ramsey at school, took her home to drug and rape her, and then
>> > accidentally
>> > killed her nearly 10 years ago.
>> >
>> > But schools were closed for the Christmas break when JonBenet died . . 
>> > . "
>> >
>> > As the article suggests, it will all come down to DNA.  If there is a 
>> > DNA
>> > match, it becomes a slam dunk.  If the DNA does not match . . .
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Doubts linger in JonBenet case
>> > Despite confession, questions remain
>> >
>> > Catherine Tsai and Jon Sarche
>> > Associated Press
>> > August 18, 2006
>> >
>> > BOULDER, Colo. - If John Mark Karr is telling the truth, he picked up
>> > 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey at school, took her home to drug and rape 
>> > her,
>> > and then accidentally killed her nearly 10 years ago.
>> >
>> > But schools were closed for the Christmas break when JonBenet died and 
>> > the
>> > coroner found no evidence of drugs or sexual assault on the little 
>> > girl's
>> > body. And few experts believe that a girl who was slowly strangled with 
>> > a
>> > garrote was killed by accident. There are even questions whether Karr 
>> > was
>> > in
>> > Colorado at the time of the slaying.
>> >
>> > The doubts have led some to wonder whether the 41-year-old Karr is the
>> > answer to the long-unsolved slaying of the child beauty queen or a
>> > disturbed
>> > wannabe trying to insert himself into a high-profile case.
>> >
>> > "We should all heed the poignant advice of John Ramsey," said Boulder
>> > County
>> > District Attorney Mary Lacy, quoting the girl's father. "Do not jump to
>> > conclusions, do not rush to judgment, do not speculate. Let the justice
>> > system take its course."
>> >
>> > Experts said the questions surrounding Karr's story put more pressure 
>> > on
>> > corroborating evidence such as DNA.
>> >
>> > "They either have a miss or a match on the DNA," former Denver 
>> > prosecutor
>> > Craig Silverman said. "If it's a miss, the prosecution has serious
>> > problems.
>> > If it's a match, then it's game, set and match for this case. Couple 
>> > the
>> > DNA
>> > with the kooky confession and it's enough for most people to convict."
>> >
>> >
>> > That confession came Thursday when the sullen Karr was paraded before a
>> > raucous crush of reporters in Bangkok, Thailand. Karr told how he loved
>> > JonBenet, was with her when she died but that her death was an 
>> > accident.
>> > And
>> > while vague on the details - "it would take several hours" - he 
>> > answered
>> > flatly when asked if he was innocent: "No."
>> >
>> > "The bottom line is that they now have a confession and until and 
>> > unless
>> > they can corroborate that confession with either physical evidence or
>> > strong
>> > circumstantial evidence, that's all they have," said Scott Robinson, a
>> > Denver attorney who has followed the case from the beginning.
>> >
>> > Karr told investigators he drugged and sexually assaulted the little 
>> > girl
>> > before accidentally killing her in her Boulder home, according to a 
>> > senior
>> > Thai police officer who was briefed about the interview with U.S.
>> > authorities.
>> >
>> > Yet JonBenet's autopsy report found no evidence of drugs, saying her 
>> > death
>> > was caused by strangulation after a beating that included a fractured
>> > skull.
>> > And while it describes vaginal injuries, it makes no conclusions about
>> > whether she was raped. Investigators later concluded there was no semen 
>> > on
>> > JonBenet's body.
>> >
>> > According to Thai police, Karr also said he picked JonBenet up at 
>> > school
>> > and
>> > took her back to her home. But the slaying came during the holiday
>> > vacation
>> > season.
>> >
>> > Karr's ex-wife told TV reporters she cannot defend him, then insisted 
>> > he
>> > was
>> > with her in Alabama during Christmas 1996, when JonBenet's battered 
>> > body
>> > was
>> > found in the basement of her home. And authorities have not said 
>> > whether
>> > Karr could have written the detailed ransom note found in the Ramsey 
>> > home,
>> > with its demand for $118,000 (the bonus that had recently been awarded 
>> > to
>> > the girl's father, John Ramsey).
>> >
>> > Even the Colorado professor who swapped four years' worth of e-mails 
>> > with
>> > Karr and brought him to the attention of prosecutors in May refused to
>> > characterize the suspect either as killer or kook.
>> >
>> > "I don't know that he's guilty," said Michael Tracey, who teaches
>> > journalism
>> > at the University of Colorado. "Obviously, I went to the district 
>> > attorney
>> > for a reason, but let him have his day in court, and let JonBenet have 
>> > her
>> > day in court, and let's see how it plays out."
>> >
>> > Karr himself added to the mystery, telling the Associated Press in 
>> > Bangkok
>> > that JonBenet's death was "not what it seems to be."
>> >
>> > Asked what happened when JonBenet died, he said: "It would take several
>> > hours to describe that. It's a very involved series of events that 
>> > would
>> > involve a lot of time. It's very painful for me to talk about it."
>> >
>> > Also unclear is whether Karr - whose record includes a 2001 arrest on
>> > misdemeanor counts of possession of child pornography - had any 
>> > previous
>> > relationship with the Ramsey family, though both have ties to suburban
>> > Atlanta.
>> >
>> > District Attorney Lacy refused to discuss the case during a brief news
>> > conference and suggested Karr's arrest may have been forced by concern
>> > over
>> > public safety and fears the suspect might flee.
>> >
>> > "There are circumstances that exist in any case that mandate an arrest
>> > before an investigation is complete," Lacy said.
>> >
>> > Karr was arrested at a Bangkok apartment Wednesday, a day after he 
>> > began
>> > teaching second grade at an international school, Lacy said.
>> >
>> > Hours later, Thai authorities sat him before a crowded room of news 
>> > crews.
>> > Karr stunned reporters by admitting: "I was with JonBenet when she 
>> > died.
>> > Her
>> > death was an accident."
>> >
>> > "I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet," Karr told the AP.
>> >
>> > DNA was found beneath JonBenet's fingernails and inside her underwear, 
>> > and
>> > authorities have never said whether it matches anyone in an FBI 
>> > database.
>> > U.S. and Thai officials did not directly answer a question at a news
>> > conference about whether there was DNA evidence connecting Karr to the
>> > crime.
>> >
>> > Karr was given a mouth-swab DNA test in Bangkok, according to a law
>> > enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the
>> > ongoing investigation. The results of that test were not immediately
>> > known.
>> > Karr will be given another DNA test when he returns to the United 
>> > States
>> > in
>> > the next several days, the official said.
>> >
>> > Lin Wood, the Ramsey family's longtime attorney in Atlanta, said Karr 
>> > went
>> > to great lengths to conceal his identity in e-mails to the university
>> > professor, going so far as to use a computer server in Canada.
>> >
>> > Asked if authorities could tell whether Karr had firsthand knowledge of
>> > the
>> > murder or had just picked up information from news accounts, Wood said:
>> > "There is information about the murder that has never been publicly
>> > disclosed." He did not elaborate.
>> >
>> > Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, was quoted by San Francisco television 
>> > station
>> > KGO saying she does not believe he was involved in the homicide.
>> >
>> > Denver attorney Larry Pozner, past president of the National 
>> > Association
>> > of
>> > Criminal Defense Lawyers, said there were "serious questions" about the
>> > case.
>> >
>> > "I hope we have found the murderer of JonBenet, but I have not heard 
>> > the
>> > evidence that compels that conclusion," he said.
>> >
>> > Karr's description of the case as an accident also rang false to 
>> > experts.
>> >
>> > "It's hard to imagine a more intentional, deliberate murder than 
>> > hitting a
>> > little girl in the head so hard that she had almost a foot-long 
>> > fracture
>> > in
>> > her skull and then deliberately fashioning a garrote to twist until it
>> > buries in her neck and slowly stops her breathing," said Silverman, the
>> > former Denver prosecutor. "This has always been a case of deliberate
>> > murder."
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
>> >
>> > Tom Hansen
>> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >
>> >
>> > ********************************************
>> >
>> > "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
>> >
>> > - Thomas Jefferson
>> >
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