[Vision2020] Missing the point

[Joe Campbell]

Princess,

This is three for me BUT the whole damn debate started when Wilson tried to suggest (a) that slavery wasn't as bad as we thought that it was, (b) that some instances of slavery were justified (as long as the Master was "Christian" and the slave was Non-"Christian"), (c) and that persons deserved death on the basis of their sexual orientation. That sounds pretty intolerant to me and this is only part of what Wilson has said. If he ever took it upon himself to stop saying such nonsense and to apologize to those in the community that he’s offended we’d be well beyond this mess. 

Wilson at least looks like a bigot. He has named political critics on police reports. And ... well you know the rest. I'm not going to pretend to think Wilson's opinions are just one set among the many just because you keep saying that my criticisms of him are illustrative of some bias on my part. Criticism of intolerance is not itself a display of intolerance.

But then again you know all this. When reason and argument are unavailable all one has is rhetoric and false accusations. 

No wonder you won’t use your real name!

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Joe Campbell

---- Taro Tanaka <taro_tanaka at hotmail.com> wrote: 

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As usual, Keely, Nick, Joe, etc. miss the point.

I'm not surprised when a non-Christian disagrees with Christian doctrine. 
Rather, that is to be expected. Furthermore, I'm not suggesting that Nick 
Gier is some sort of a sordid, utterly unlikeable character. In fact, I have 
no doubt that the people I criticize on V2020 are all quite likeable.

My main point in writing is to expose hypocrisy: the intolerance of 
so-called "tolerance." Nick, along with others on V2020, claims to be 
espousing respect for all religious beliefs. I showed 1) that such a thing 
is not even possible, and 2) that the limits of Nick's tolerance end where 
claims for the crown rights of Jesus begin; basically, Nick is able to 
tolerate anything EXCEPT a fully orbed, biblically faithful Christianity.

I might add that I'm not surprised when anyone -- regardless of religious 
perspective -- manifests hypocrisy, because that is what sinners (i.e., 
human beings) do. But it does need to be pointed out. In order to be 
positive, we first have to "go negative." The good news of Jesus the Messiah 
is really good because the bad news is really bad: we are sinners in need of 
salvation. Our righteousness falls short of the glory of God.

-- Princess Sushitushi

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