[Vision2020] Poor Sportsmanship

[David Williams]

Deacon,

What DO you know of Philadelphia sports history??  You've mentioned it a few 
times now, and in typical viz style, you've offered no proof.  I can do you 
one better.  I know that Philadelphia is NOT the worst sports city in 
history.  Why??  Because Seattle IS.  I did a little research to make sure 
my impression of Seattle sports teams was correct, and boy was it ever.  In 
'95, when Griffey Jr. and co. managed to get to the ALCS, it was termed the 
"magical season".  Now, you know there must be something wrong with an 
organization which considers a 4-1 series loss to the Cleveland Indians a 
magical season.  The list of Seattle sports success was so thin, they had to 
list the Seattle Metropolitans winning the Stanley Cup in 1917.  Who were 
the Metropolitans, you ask?  My point exactly.  Philadelphia on the other 
hand has had its fair share of sports glory.  For you, Deacon, I've listed 
Philadelphia's illustrious Baseball history.  The Phillies have won the 
World Series six times (1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930, and 1980) and been 
there 13 times.  What about your Mariners, hmm??  Oh, thats right, they have 
NOTHING, nada, zilch, zero.  Care to retract??

DW

>From: "Deacon James" <deaconblues42 at gmail.com>
>To: "David Williams" <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Poor Sportsmanship
>Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:31:07 -0700
>
>David,
>
>The Phrillie Self-Implosion Machine has about as much of a chance of 
>winning
>the Wild-Card as the Devil Rays have in winning the AL East.
>
>Must be rough being a fan of the city with the worst sports teams in
>history.
>
>Take care,
>
>Deacon
>
>On 8/11/06, David Williams <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I think I'd have to agree with Deacon on this one.  The chief
>>responsibility
>>of any leadoff hitter is to get on base, no matter what.  You put your
>>team
>>in a hole by being impatient at the plate, swinging for the fences (unless
>>you're Ryan Howard), or, in this case, pandering to a potential
>>no-no.  This
>>applies specially to rubber matches, in which small ball (i.e. bunts, sac
>>bunts, sac flys, stolen bases, smart base-running) usually provides the
>>margin for winning or losing.  Kudos to Zobrist for his hustle and game
>>focus, especially on a team with sub-500 record playing in a division
>>buried
>>by the likes of Toronto, Boston and the Yankees.  A quick disclaimer: I
>>might feel a bit different and sympathize more with Scott than I currently
>>do if Zobrist did the same things against the Phillies.  Not so much that
>>he
>>would've ruined a no-hitter (I've already seen one), but b/c the Phil's
>>are
>>in the wild-card hunt, and they need EVERY win.  Apart from 3-game series
>>against the Mets, Philadelphia's remaining schedule doesn't include one
>>team
>>with a record currently over .500.  GO PHIL'S!!!
>>
>>
>> >From: "Deacon James" <deaconblues42 at gmail.com>
>> >To: Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Poor Sportsmanship
>> >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:59:45 -0700
>> >
>> >Scott,
>> >
>> >Suspension? That's taking unwritten rules a bit far, don't you think?
>> >
>> >Initially, I felt it was cheap as well. However, it was the beginning of
>> >the
>> >6th inning in a 1-0 game. A no-hitter through 5 is nothing. Hardly a 
>>week
>> >goes by without a pitcher achieving that.
>> >
>> >I think the argument stands if the D-Rays were down by 5 in the 8th; at
>> >that
>> >point the game would be out of hand. In a one run game just over
>> >half-spent,
>> >you can't fault Zobrist at all. In my opinion, he was doing whatever he
>> >could to get on base, and he ought to be applauded.
>> >
>> >Take care,
>> >
>> >Deacon
>> >
>> >On 8/11/06, Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>At the M's game on Wednesday, Jarrod Washburn was pitching beautifully
>>and
>> >>had a no-hitter going until the 6th inning when Tampa Bay's Ben Zobrist
>> >>lead
>> >>off the 6th inning with a bunt single.  In my opinion this was 
>>UNETHICAL
>> >>and
>> >>Zobrist should be suspended for at least one game by the Tampa Bay
>>manager
>> >>if not the league commisioner.  Alternatively, the M's official scorer
>> >>should have initially ruled the play an error on Adrian Beltre in order
>>to
>> >>keep the no-hitter intact and the scorer could have later changed the
>>play
>> >>to a hit once the Devil Rays actually produced a legitimate hit.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap;_ylt=Ag6F94JwmxUZLdr6UuPHWrUn0bYF?gid=260809112
>> >>
>> >>-Scott
>> >>
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