[Vision2020] Minimum wage
David Williams
davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 9 13:11:26 PDT 2006
Ummmm.... how would you go about "explainging" things??
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage
>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:35:14 -0700
>
>Dictate to us...em, sorry - ENLIGHTEN us as to how you feel the MSD is
>wasting money on the children? Just where should the budget be cut?
>
>Sounds to me you are verra familiar with the affects of an illegal
>substance; howbeit, since you have NEVER made it to a committee or School
>Board meeting, please - spread your light this-a-way and let the city know
>what plan you think would work and just how would it be paid for? And just
>how would you, who apparently has all knowledge, propose to get the
>community to accept anything you come up with any more readily than the
>plans MSD has proposed?
>
>Since most of the jobs in any given city/town/state is private or privately
>corporate, what other sector should be providing jobs? Not everyone can be
>a "professional student" receiving loans and grants to make it through
>life, so please let us know what other sector is out there to provide jobs
>that hasnae.
>
>And while you're in a mood of explainging things - what the living lights
>is a "pot smoking circle"?
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>J ;|
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>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>>To: Tom Ivie <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com>, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>,
>> gweitz at moscow.com, ringoshirl at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage
>>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:09:32 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Tom,
>>
>> You can pay for it by getting the MSD to stop wasting money in our
>>current school system. Second, they can get the private sector to help
>>out in many job fields. A company wants nothing more than a bunch of
>>highly trained workers straight out of school. Third, if the MSD would
>>come up with a proposal that didn't sound like something contrived during
>>a high school pot smoking circle they might be able gain community
>>support.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> _DJA
>>
>>Tom Ivie <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com> wrote: How do you pay for that when we
>>can't even pass bonds for buildings and the state has to step in to fund
>>that?
>>
>>Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote: . . ."under
>>Donovan's plan, parents will have tons more free time --
>>what with being excused from the kinds of things most of us signed up for
>>as
>>parents -- and will then form roaming street gangs or start smoking or
>>having sex."-- Keely Mix
>>
>>
>>Keely,
>>
>>I know you are the expert on education being on the school board and all.
>> But, as I understand it, all parents have already been having sex.
>>
>>_DJA
>>
>>keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote: Of course, under Donovan's
>>plan, parents will have tons more free time --
>>what with being excused from the kinds of things most of us signed up
>>for as
>>parents -- and will then form roaming street gangs or start smoking or
>>having sex.
>>
>>keely
>>
>>
>>From: Donovan Arnold
>>To: Jerry Weitz , Shirley Ringo ,
>>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Minimum wage
>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Jerry,
>>
>>I agree with you 100% regarding the workforce training. The school system
>>needs to start kids one year earlier, let them out one year later ,and use
>>those two extra years to train youth a job skill, good work ethic, how to
>>search for and find a job, keep a job, and advance in that field.
>>
>>They also need to teach youth how to do taxes, be a responsible member of
>>the community, build social skills, know first aid and establish healthy
>>eating habits, and all about how credit and debit works.
>>
>>In other words, schools need to teach youth the things they are going to
>>need to know about living in modern society and doing well. So many things
>>you learn in school today seem pointless when you get out and never use
>>it.
>>You also find yourself hurting in other areas when you are expected to
>>know
>>how to do something in life but nobody ever taught you.
>>
>>Thanks for your email.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>_DJA
>>
>>Jerry Weitz wrote:
>>Raising the minimum wage from $5.15 to $6.15 will not help in real
>>inflation-adjusted buying power--it is too small of an increase. So let’s
>>discuss the fundamentals. As Virginia’s former Democratic governor Mark
>>Warner’s track record illustrates, skills training in our high schools
>>would help increase wages for Idaho’s workforce and encourage more jobs.
>>With the push for community colleges in the urban areas of Idaho, I
>>believe
>>that our local high schools could become the rural equivalent of
>>community
>>college. This would cost money and would require a willingness to change
>>the current high school structure.
>>
>>The state legislature’s current focus on shifting school funding from
>>property taxes to the sales tax (the current maintenance and operations
>>debate) misses the point. Instead of focusing on ways to shift funds, I
>>would urge consideration for increased funding for the
>>creation/maintenance
>>of skills centers in local high schools. Rather than seeking a balanced
>>taxation approach, the Idaho Education Association has promoted a tax
>>shift
>>to the sales tax, which sends a confusing message.
>>
>>When one examines France, with a high minimum wage, a large
>>under-skilled/inexperienced segment of its youth, guaranteed employment
>>contracts, unbending unionization, top down regulations, etc., one
>>observes
>>high unemployment, a high cost of living, and extreme social unrest.
>>
>>What works: 1) create/maintain superior education for both the
>>college-bound and the non-college-bound, 2) invest in infrastructure, 3)
>>be
>>friendly to business, 4) be environmentally wise, and 5) do this without
>>going deeply into debt, which requires prioritization. Ireland has
>>followed the above policies with exceptional success. We should follow the
>>lead of former governor Warner and Virginia’s Republican legislature and
>>make these policies non-partisan. From what I’ve learned, Larry Grant, our
>>district’s Democratic candidate for Congress, seems to understand this
>>non-partisan, middle of the road approach.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>At 11:11 AM 8/7/06, Shirley Ringo wrote:
>>Visionaries:
>>
>>
>>I cannot resist the urge to weigh in on the minimum wage issue. I
>>proposed legislation during the most recent legislative session to raise
>>the minimum wage to $6.15. It received very little support from
>>Republicans. (Our District 6 Republicans did support it, and
>>Representative Trail will co-sponsor the effort with us again next year.)
>>
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>>We plan to try again next year, at an amount above $6.15.
>>
>>
>>
>>Without getting into the usual arguments, it’s unacceptable to have a
>>minimum wage that leaves those paid at that level in cruel poverty.
>>Lawmakers have neglected maintenance on minimum wage levels. In 1968, the
>>minimum wage meant something positive to families. In inflation-adjusted
>>dollars, it has lost nearly 40% of its value between 1968 and now.
>>
>>
>>
>>According to polling, the vast majority of Americans believe the minimum
>>wage should be higher. I believe eighteen states have a minimum wage
>>higher than the $5.15 federal level, which has not been raised since 1997.
>>Some of these states have used the initiative process to get results,
>>where
>>state legislators would not act on it. In some of these states, there
>>has
>>been significant help from Republican leaders.
>>
>>
>>
>>Many claims of negative consequences do not seem to be true. One of the
>>claims is that jobs will be lost. In the majority of states that have
>>raised the minimum wage, there has in fact been an increase in jobs. (We
>>can’t claim the wage increase caused more jobs, but the decrease some
>>predicted didn’t happen.) An increase in employee productivity and less
>>absenteeism was reported where the pay level increased.
>>
>>
>>
>>On the inflation issue, "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
>>/>Florida reported after
>>raising their minimum wage a very minor increase in some prices. Since a
>>relatively small percent of the employed receive minimum wage, one might
>>not expect a dramatic increase in prices. (We can expect a “ripple effect”
>>though, where employers will raise wages to be more competitive.) One year
>>ago in Idaho, according to the Department of Commerce and Labor, 32,000
>>Idahoans received a wage between $5.15 and $6.15 per hour. While Idaho
>>State Government employee pay is entirely too low, almost none of them
>>receive pay as low as $5.15 per hour. I don’t consider it an undisputed
>>fact that there will be significant inflation, but we can certainly study
>>the issue in the states that have raised the minimum wage.
>>
>>
>>
>>Workers who receive minimum wage live from paycheck to paycheck. (If
>>they can make it stretch.) They have no discretionary money. What are
>>they to do when their taxes go up? Just more water in the gravy, I guess.
>>At the minimum wage, it takes more than one full day to earn the money to
>>buy fifteen gallons of gasoline.
>>
>>
>>
>>While I continue to study the issue, I am convinced that some of the
>>negative consequences of raising the minimum wage are over-stated. I am
>>also steadfast in my belief that it is unacceptable to value people and
>>families so little that we allow such a low level of compensation for
>>their
>>efforts and to address their needs.
>>
>>
>>
>>Shirley
>>
>>
>>
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