[Vision2020] Neighbor?
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 1 16:01:56 PDT 2006
All you have done is show me what Dougie wrote - big, fat deal! And if a
"neighbor" saying anyone was there, is mentioned - show me! All it says
regarding a neighbor is that one "was pointing items of interest" out to the
person Nate SAYS was on the property. No proof, no evidence - NOTHING.
BTW, WHAT items of interest does Dougie have that anyone would care about
much less take pictures of?
As far as the other - I have NOTHING to prove to you. I OWE YOU NOTHING and
will therefore not go out of my way to prove anything to you. And I have
never and would never deny I have children. I have purposefully not gone
into detail about them for obvious security reasons.
You almost sound as if you are seeking a reason to "question the
trustworthiness " of these people - the rock beginning to crack a bit for
you?
As for proving anything, why aren't you asking Dougie to prove that any of
his statements and police complaints are true? I have not seen anything
here where you ask him to PROVE he has been the recipient of harassment or
vandalism.
And I am never shrill, lad - I am just responding to your accusations. You
don't like what you read - either don't ask or simply don't read.
The End.
J :]
>From: "Austin Storm" <austinstorm at gmail.com>
>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Neighbor?
>Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:41:00 -0700
>
>Dear J,
>
>The post on Doug Wilson's blog is here:
>http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&CategoryID=1&BlogID=2163
>
>I have told you multiple times that I would be greatly inclined to believe
>you if you would just put to rest once and for all that you are not Jackie
>Woolf.
>
>It would work like this:
>1. Pastor Wilson and others at Christ Church say that you are Jackie Woolf.
>2. You say that you are not.
>3. If you proved to me that you were not (this would be quite easy), I
>would
>have cause to question the trustworthiness of everyone who claims that you
>are.
>
>You are unwilling to do this. You have also denied multiple times that you
>have a son, something that people who say they know you also assert.
>
>I am trying to give you the benefit of a doubt, but you get so very shrill
>whenever I bring these things up.
>
>-Austin
>
>On 8/1/06, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>WHAT neighbor? That's a new one.
>>
>>The only people lying here is Dougie and Nate and they know it. As for
>>the
>>neighbor - produce the name and what they saw. Otherwise, you will be
>>added
>>to that list of liars.
>>
>>While you're at it, produce these supposed pictures...many people,
>>including
>>myself, are unaware of what Dougie's property and house looks like either
>>inside or out. Be interesting to see how "the others" live.
>>
>>
>>J :]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: "Austin Storm" <austinstorm at gmail.com>
>> >To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
>> >Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:05:15 -0700
>> >
>> >You won't even tell me your real name. Why should I believe you? Why
>>would
>> >Nate Wilson, his wife and Doug's neighbor claim that you were in the
>> >Wilson's yard taking pictures? What motivation does the neighbor have
>>for
>> >lying with the Wilsons about that?
>> >
>> >I will answer the question. There is no point to him making a false
>>police
>> >report. So I don't believe he did. Suggestions that he did it to get
>> >attention are absurd.
>> >
>> >-Austin
>> >
>> >
>> >On 7/31/06, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>A. I DIDN'T.
>> >>
>> >>B. You didn't answer the question - Oh! Big surprise!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>J :]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From: "Austin Storm" <austinstorm at gmail.com>
>> >> >To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
>> >> >Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:19:37 -0700
>> >> >
>> >> >Good question. What was the point of you taking pictures of his
>>house?
>> >> >
>> >> >-Austin
>> >> >
>> >> >On 7/21/06, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>What the h***'s the point of Dougie's making a FALSE police report!?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>J :]
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>> >> >> >To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
>> >> >> >Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:26:24 -0700
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Perhaps because he has other things to be doing and rattled off
>>the
>> >> >>first
>> >> >> >few names that came to mind in an effort to move the process
>>along,
>> >>in
>> >> >> >response to a question on the officers form. What nefarious
>>purpose
>> >>do
>> >> >>you
>> >> >> >imagine is being served by not providing the exhaustive rouges
>> >>gallery
>> >> >>that
>> >> >> >you have conjured up? Do you really think that the MPD is going to
>> >> >>follow
>> >> >> >up on a list such as you envision? What would be the point,
>>exactly?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >gc
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > From: Tom Hansen
>> >> >> > To: 'g. crabtree' ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >> >> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:56 PM
>> >> >> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It is really quite simple, GC -
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If, in fact, those acts of harassment happened as Wilson
>>reported
>> >>to
>> >> >>the
>> >> >> >police, what standard did he apply to simply restrict his "list of
>> >> >>names"
>> >> >> >to those four people?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Was his standard that they had "voiced animosity" against him
>>and
>> >>his
>> >> >> >church? If so, wouldn't the list be considerably longer than
>>those
>> >>four
>> >> >> >names?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If I remember correctly, Doug Stambler also "voiced animosity"
>> >> >>against
>> >> >> >Wilson a long while back. Perhaps Stambler has returned.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund (after having lost their
>> >>appeal
>> >> >> >against Wilson Inc.) conspired to harass Wilson.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps I committed these acts of harassment in retaliation
>>after
>> >> >>having
>> >> >> >read my wife's name and medical history outlined on Courtney's
>>blog
>>a
>> >> >>while
>> >> >> >back.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps these acts of harassment were committed by Joan Opyr
>>for
>> >> >> >virtually any number of reasons provided by Wilson and/or
>>Courtney.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps Nick Gier . . .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps Bill London . . .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps BJ Swanson . . .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps Debi Robinson-Smith . . .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps half the City Council . . .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps anybody that protested his "History Conference" of
>> >>February
>> >> >>2004
>> >> >> >. . .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It isn't necessarily the reporting of the supposed harassment
>>that
>> >>I
>> >> >> >question, but why does he associate those four people (Wolf,
>>Nolan,
>> >> >> >Metzler, and Morin) and not others?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Tom Hansen
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > *************************************************
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7,
>> >>2002)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For more details: http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > *************************************************
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at adelphia.net]
>> >> >> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:30 PM
>> >> >> > To: Tom Hansen; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Well, I'm not sure what this has to do with my post on the
>>wonder
>> >> >>twins
>> >> >> >activities with regard to the city's budget but I love a non
>>sequitur
>> >>as
>> >> >> >much as Turks love taffy and fluffy towels.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Wilson's response to the activities at his home seems quite
>> >>measured
>> >> >>and
>> >> >> >reasonable. It is the same approach that I, and I assume, most
>>normal
>> >> >> >people would take. Have the incident on file in case you should
>>get
>> >> >>lucky
>> >> >> >and catch the verminous vandal but not use up valuable police
>> >>recourses
>> >> >>on
>> >> >> >what will, almost certainly, be a lost cause as well as a matter
>>of
>> >> >> >relatively small importance in the greater scheme of things. To
>> >>imagine
>> >> >> >that he's making it all up for some dark and unexplainable reason
>> >>seems
>> >> >>a
>> >> >> >trifle silly and contrived.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > gc
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > From: Tom Hansen
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > To: 'g. crabtree' ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:15 PM
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Speaking of being vindictive, GC . . .
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Wilsonistas/Police_Report_071805.htm
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I especially like the paragraph on page 2 where it is stated:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Wilson said that he did not want to pursue this incident,
>>but
>> >> >>wanted
>> >> >> >to have it documented."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If I were harassed as much as Wilson claims that he was
>> >>harassed,
>> >>I
>> >> >> >most certainly would want the police to pursue the matter. But
>>then,
>> >>if
>> >> >>I
>> >> >> >had nothing to substantiate my claim of harassment, I would not
>>want
>> >>the
>> >> >> >police to pursue it, merely document it to create what would be
>> >> >>presented
>> >> >> >later as a "history", a false history.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > (Oops. I forgot to sign the posting. Wouldn't want anybody
>>to
>> >> >>blow
>> >> >>a
>> >> >> >gasket, now would I?)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Tom Hansen
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > PS to His Whineyness - Your harassment complaint only lists
>>four
>> >> >> >people (Wolf, Nolan, Metzler, and Morin) that you claim who have
>> >>"voiced
>> >> >> >animosity to him [Wilson] and his church." If you check with
>> >>Courtney
>> >> >>or
>> >> >> >Arnold, I am certain that you will be provided at least nine more
>> >>names.
>> >> >> >I'm hurt, Dougie. I thought that I meant something to you. *sniff
>>.
>> >>.
>> >>.
>> >> >> >sniff*
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > *************************************************
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7,
>> >>2002)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For more details: http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > *************************************************
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >
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