[Vision2020] Water: Are we the cause?
mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 26 20:03:07 PDT 2006
Thanks for your well thought out and insightful argument. One thing that
gets me is no one knows when our water will run out. Should this be cause
for concern? Your damn right. Should we stop all growth, no. Mark where is
your stance on growth? Should we alter it? Stop it? What should we do?
Lets move our motivations towards an alternate source, such as a resevoir or
grey water, before we start running out all of the fellas who depend on
growth for their survival.
My 2 cents
>From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
>To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, Nils Peterson
><nils_peterson at wsu.edu>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water: Are we the cause?
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 06:41:33 -0700
>If I hadn't heard otherwise intelligent people asking this question in
>other venues, I would have just written this question off as another
>instance of pointless blather, but I have. Two points to answer because
>there are two separate aquifer systems Moscow relies on: the upper Wanapum
>basalts and the lower Grande Ronde basalts.
>Wanapum: Used to be Moscow, sole source of water until 1960. Well levels
>dropped from 1930 (beginning of record keeping) until pumping ceased in
>1960 with well levels in essential free fall as the aquifer was drained. It
>took 30 years to recover, but by 1990 it was recharged. Score one for human
>caused decline. (Pumping resumed in 1990 and well levels are again falling,
>following roughly the same curve as the previous pumping period which
>indicates a dry spell coming for Wanapum wells in about 15-20 years. The
>Wanapum currently provides @ 30% of Moscow water.)
>Grande Ronde: We'll have to prove this one in the negative as the GR has
>been dropping 1-2' per year ever since we started pumping it and there has
>never been a period in which it wasn't pumped. Static water levels
>currently are about 700' below ground level. If the 1-2' drop per year were
>not human induced, then by the we didn't do it argument, the water level
>somewhere between 350-700 years ago the water would have been at the ground
>level and we could be sipping water with a straw from the ground or
>watching springs bubble up and flow off down the rivers. As there is
>absolutely no indication in the geologic or indigenous oral history of this
>unlikely phenomenon, it probably did not occur. Call it thousands of years
>and the same argument holds. Score another one for human caused decline.
>And let's move on to real issues like "what you gonna do when the well runs
>At 11:20 PM -0700 4/25/06, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>How do we even know that we (humans in Moscow) are the cause of the
>>decline in the aquifer? Just because my bathtub water is going down does
>>not mean I am consuming it. Just a thought.
>>Nils Peterson <nils_peterson at wsu.edu> wrote:
>>This is a good list, and some clear challenges. If the assertion in #1 is
>>true, many people don't believe its an issue, then I doubt the rest of the
>>items can follow.
>>Is it possible that many think a declining aquifer might be a problem, but
>>they don't think they can affect a solution, or that a solution might be
>>financially costly to them, or that a solution might have negative impacts
>>on the city (read, no growth).
>>Art Deco writes:
>>> Nils asks:
>>> "What is missing to put this into action?"
>>> Among other things that may or may not be missing but whose existence
>>> 1. A large enough segment of the Moscow electorate willing to be
>>> on this issue. There are many people who believe that the water issue
>>> not that important at this time.
>>> 2. Enough informed, willing and able persons to do the one-on-one
>>> education that it would probably take; the funds that it would take to
>>> prepare the materials for and to execute the education program.
>>> 3. A majority on the Moscow City Council with enough courage and
>>> to lead, to carefully plan, and to enact the program.
>>> 4. A competent enough city manager and staff to successfully implement
>>> the program.
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