[Vision2020] Re: Potlatch (was Immigration or Invasion?)

Tue Apr 25 08:00:28 PDT 2006

Re: [Vision2020] Re: Potlatch (was Immigration or InvasionMark,

Yes, I am also retired from the Port.  Time to let some younger, more energetic people take the reigns.  I am still working though.  Guess it is hard to change old habits.

As for the importance of the immigration issue; it is much larger than what merely affects this valley and small region.  I believe my retirement is fairly secure, at least as secure as anyone's can be in these times.  We never allowed Potlatch to buy out our pension fund and, to date, it is still more than fully-funded.

Take care,

Dick
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Solomon 
  To: rvrcowboy ; Vision2020 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Potlatch (was Immigration or Invasion?)

  Dick,

  I kind of assumed from your email handle that you had retired. >From the Port as well? Enjoy.

  But you really believe that immigration in the Valley is a larger issue than whether the region's largest private employer stays in business? Better cash out that pension now before it evaporates.

  Mark

  At 7:19 AM -0700 4/25/06, rvrcowboy wrote:
    Mark,

    I worked for Potlatch for over thirty years.  You probably don't know I retired three years ago.  According to the company and the media, the company lost millions nearly every quarter, especially in contract years like this one.  Still the company continued to produce product and operate.  I don't believe everything I read.  I truly believe a lot of it is printed merely to convince the suckers, which it does.

    As for whether or not this is as important as the immigration issue:  No, I don't believe it is even close.

    Dick

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Mark Solomon
      To: rvrcowboy ; Vision2020
      Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:17 AM
      Subject: Potlatch (was Immigration or Invasion?)

      Dick,

      This just in on the wire http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=100877&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=847067&highlight=:

       "The Pulp and Paperboard segment reported an operating loss of $2.4 million for 2006's first quarter, versus operating income of $2.4 million for the first quarter of 2005. "A 13 percent increase in paperboard shipments, combined with higher selling prices for paperboard and increased pulp shipments to external customers, were more than offset by higher maintenance, chemical, freight and energy costs," Covey said. He added that energy expense, including natural gas, was $2.0 million higher than in the first quarter of 2005. "

      So Dick, now that the mills are separate from the land and timber in a very real way due to the REIT conversion, how long can money losing divisions like pulp and paper last? Seems like this is a much larger question for folks in the Valley than immigration.

      Mark Solomon

      At 11:39 PM -0700 4/24/06, rvrcowboy wrote:

        HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT! 

        Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; "Go back to Boston! Go back to 
        Plymouth  Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. 
        Go on. We  have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It 
        is your duty to die . . . Through love of having children, we are going 
         to take  over. 

        Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. "They're afraid we're  going 
        to  take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. 
        They're  right. We will take them over . . We are here to stay." 

        Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, "The American Southwest 
        seems  to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a 
        single  shot." 

          Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; "We have an 
        aging white  America. They are not making babies. They are dying.

        The explosion is in  our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in

         their pants with fear.   I love it." 

        Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, "Remember 
        187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to 
        non-citizens--was the last  gasp of white America in California." 

        Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, "We are politicizing 
        every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of

        this country .  
        . I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, "I'm going to go 
        out  there and vote because I want to pay them back." 

        Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and 
        California  State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under

        Governor Jerry  Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of

        Freedom by President Bill  Clinton.

        "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like 
        it should  leave." 

        Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General , "We are practicing 'La 
        Reconquista' in California." 

        Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; "We need to 
        avoid a  white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . . " 

        Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could   
        fill  up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are 
        mainstream  Mexican leaders. 

        THE U.S. VS MEXICO: 
        On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the 
        Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even 
        though most lived  in this country. They booed during the National Anthem

        and U.S. flags  were  held upside down. As the match progressed,

        supporters of the U.S. team   were  insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched

        and spat upon. Beer and  trash  were thrown at the U.S. players before and

         after the match. The coach of the  U.S. team, Steve Sampson said,

        "This was the most painful experience I have  ever had in this profession." 

        Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European 
        countries  can come to this country and get preferences in jobs,

        education, and  government  contracts? It's called affirmative action or racial

        privilege. The  Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate

        here and  immediately be  eligible for special rights unavailable for

        Americans of European  descent. 

        Recently, a vote was taken in the U.S. Congress to end this  practice. 
        It was  defeated. Every single Democratic senator except Ernest Hollings 
        voted to  maintain special privileges for Hispanic, Asian and African 
        immigrants. They  were joined by thirteen Republicans.

        Bill Clinton and Al Gore have  repeatedly stated they believe that massive

        immigration from countries like  Mexico  is good. They have also backed

        special privileges for these  immigrants. 

        Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and 
        third  world  immigrants should get special, privileged status.

        Some examples are Exxon,  Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber,

        Starbucks and many more. 

        DID YOU KNOW?: 
        Did you know that Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the 
        defense in  criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know

        that Mexico  has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of

        murder in the U.S. in spite of  agreements to do so?

        According to the L.A. Times, Orange County, California  is home to 275

        gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican  and Asian.

        How's your county doing? 

        According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years 
        after the  great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30%

        are still  on  welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide.

         A Wall Street Journal  editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law

        enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the

        "greatest criminal challenge the  country faces." Not bad for a group

         that is still under 5% of the  population. 

        Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who 
        spent  over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system.

        "Imagine teachers  in classes containing 30-40 students of widely

        varying attention spans  and motivation, many of whom aren't fluent

        in English. Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the

        majority of students and  that means fewer words and math problems

        and more pictures and  multicultural  references." 

        Immigrants that came through Ellis Island wanted to learn English. 
        They wanted to breath free. They wanted to become Americans. Now too 
        many immigrants come here with  demands. They demand to be taught

        in their own language. They demand special  privileges--affirmative action.

        They demand ethnic studies that  glorify their  culture. 

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