[Vision2020] Vision2020 in the yard and the Daylight Snafu?
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 19 23:16:30 PDT 2006
"Keep talking your little creep...keep talking. I love it when people dig their own graves with their own shovels."--Jackie Woolf
Or what Jackie? Are you going to sneak onto my property, take photos, bend my car antenna? Pass on how many people are living in my apartment for Don Huskey to put in complain about how my apartment complex is being used for housing college students?
Don't you have a job? Something productive to do to keep you busy and give your family some income? Something to keep your mind off Doug Wilson for a few hours, or even minutes, a day?
Thankfully, I don't own much property, so I don't fear Jackie, Joan, Rose, and their gang. Not to mention it is a dumb-ass thing to threaten people on a public forum. But so is snapping pictures on private property.
As you can see, when the intolerastas come to my town, talk crap about people in it, it is all fine. But if you point out facts and speak your opinion they threaten you either with physical damage, lawsuits, or just plain harassing you endlessly.
_DJA
PS Jackie Woolf, I am going to keep talking. I am going to talk, and talk, and talk. Just like you talk and talk about Wilson and NSA students. As anyone can plainly see, you are no better than anyone else you have accused. You break the law, then cover it up. Perhaps instead of using the name Ford, you should use the previous President's name, Nixon.
J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote: Keep talking your little creep...keep talking.
I love it when people dig their own graves with their own shovels.
J :]
>From: Donovan Arnold
>To: joekc at adelphia.net
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, Robert Sentz
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 in the yard and the Daylight Snafu?
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:22:11 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Joe,
>
> You and Jackie Woolf are the only ones denying that Jackie Woolf went
>onto Mr. Wilson's property without permission and was taking pictures. You
>are also now the only one denying that J Ford is in fact Jackie Woolf. You
>have a PhD, I have reason to believe that you probably knew the truth and
>drew the proper conclusions long before most of us on here.
>
> _DJA
>
>joekc at adelphia.net wrote: I know for a fact that there is another
>explanation. Trust me.
>--
>Joe Campbell
>
>---- Donovan Arnold wrote:
>
>=============
>Robert,
>
> Jackie Woolf would not answer the question on V2020 because then it
>would be even more obvious that she is in fact J Ford. See, yes?
>
> She will just most likely keep the name J Ford and deny she is Jackie
>Woolf and say at the same time Jackie Woolf did not trespass.
>
> _DJA
>
>Robert Sentz wrote: I was wondering if Jackie would not mind answering
>Joan's question here on
>Vision 2020? . . .just to set the record straight.
>
>
>
> >From: Donovan Arnold
> >To: Joan Opyr , Donatelo Juan
> >CC: Vision2020 Moscow
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 in the yard and the Daylight Snafu?
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:19:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >All,
> >
> > Jackie Woolf is J Ford.
> > This story of Jackie Woolf trespassing takes me back to when someone
> >trespassed on CJ's downtown bar and destroyed some of the property after
> >the owner opposed the Moscow School Levy and got into arguments with
> >Jackie Woolf and some Intoleristas. ~Just something to think about.
> >
> > Joan Opyr, Rose Huskey, Keely Mix, Tom Hansen, and Wayne Fox are all
> >fully aware of the fact that Jford is Jackie Woolf. I find it hilarious
> >that Joan would intentionally try to pull the wool over Vision 2020
> >readers as though we are as gullible as some of the blind followers of
>her
> >logic.
> >
> > There is such hypocrisy here. They attack others for violating the
>law,
> >yet violate the law themselves, then lie about it and lie they know
> >anything about it. What do you think Joan and Rose's reaction would be
>if
> >a Wilson or NSA student was caught trespassing on Joan's property?
> >
> > I am extremely bothered by a group of self appointed vigilantes, that
> >insult people, attack their character, trespass, take pictures of their
> >house and property, record people's personal information, the number of
> >people in their household, and cost the taxpayers tens of thousands in
> >research, time, and money, by taking away resources from the Police
> >Department and the city government that are needed to solve our current
> >problems.
> >
> > _DJA
> >
> > The following article was copied from
> >http://www.dougwils.com/?Action=Search&searchstring=Snafu
> >
> > "Sunday Morning Daylight Savings Snafu
> > Topic: Moscow Diversity Cleansing As you perhaps know, everybody
> >should have set their clocks ahead so that they could arrive at worship
>on
> >time. This we did, and after services some of my kids (and their kids)
> >came by our house after church for some of our usual eating and
> >fellowship. They arrived here before we did, and were astonished to find
> >Jackie Woolf, one of the Intoleristas, on our property. If this is not a
> >familiar name to you all, her alter-ego (J. Ford) posts regular attacks
> >against Christ Church, New St. Andrews, and me on Vision 20/20. When the
> >kids first got here, she was up on the neighbor's property southwest of
> >us, and the neighbor was pointing items of interest out to her. After
> >that, she hiked down onto our driveway (on our property), and then over
> >onto the hillside under our house (also on our property) overlooking our
> >lower acreage, at which time she began taking pictures of it all. So
>there
> >she was in our yard, although it must be
> > admitted that this portion of our yard that she was standing on has to
> >be considered as sort of a feral yard. So let me tell you what happened
> >then.
> > My son and daughter went down to our lower drive and Rachel said,
> >"Hey, Jackie. Whatcha workin'on?"
> > She replied, "None of your business."
> > Nate said, "Well, it actually is, because you're on our land."
> > Then she said, "It's not your land."
> > And Nate said, "Yeah, it is. See that fenceline?"
> > With that she said, "Whatever," and harumphed off, taking her
>camera
> >with her and (one presumes) some excessively incrimating photos of early
> >spring at My Place.
> > When I got home, and these amazing events were related to me, my
>wife
> >and I decided that we really ought to call the cops. This is not because
> >we hyper-ventilate when neighborhood kids use our driveway to get to
> >school. "Be our guest," about sums up our philosophy on these things.
>But
> >we thought that we needed to have some legal record of the event, which
>we
> >now have.
> > I had no idea that the Intoleristas were into Special Ops. We are
> >dealing with people who might have a War Room in somebody's basement,
>with
> >a map of my land on the wall, with red and blue pins sticking in the
>map,
> >and grease pencil stratagems sketched out, though the complexities of
> >daylight savings time are apparently beyond them ("Hey! What are thy
>doing
> >back from church already?"). We are dealing with people who probably
>have
> >satellite photos of our land, and it follows from this that they really
> >ought to have a better notion of where it actually is.
> > This also presents me with the opportunity to proclaim to all who
>are
> >interested that our private driveway is not a city-owned fire lane, or
> >city-owned anything else. It is a private drive that runs spang through
> >the middle of our three acres. And this may serve as my formal public
> >notice that friends, neighbors, and other friendly people are welcome to
> >drop by anytime. But we would really prefer that those of Hostile
> >Disposition try to get a grip, unless it is a grip on a camera while
> >hiking on our land.
> > This sort of thing really makes me wonder how often folks have been
> >tromping around out here when we are at church. It also makes me wonder
> >how many people among the Intoleristas are actually involved in it, and
>if
> >any of them will express any kind of embarrassment over this. That is
>not
> >impossible, but we have been dealing with this kind of thing for so long
> >that I have to say that I would be suprised if they do. The Eagles had a
> >great song that I think really ought to become our theme song with
>regard
> >to all this -- "Get Over It."
> >
> > Posted by Douglas Wilson - 4/2/2006 5:14:34 PM | Link to this post |
> >Print this post"
> >
> >Joan Opyr wrote: On Apr 19, 2006, at 3:58 PM,
> >Donatelo Juan wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Visionaries
> > >
> > > Joan,
> > >
> > > I think you might have your statemenst confused a little. Michael
> > > stated that he created a second ficticious person on the Wilson
> > > property. Michael has never stated anything concerning J Ford (Jakie
> > > Wolf) being on that property.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Didn't Michael Metzler already announce right here on this very list
> > >> that no such trespass ever happened? That he had created this myth
> > >> on his blog, Poohsthink.com, as an April Fool's Day joke to see 1) if
> > >> Doug Wilson would fall for it, and 2) if Doug Wilson would find it
> > >> funny, given the Christ Church elders' professed fondness for
> > >> "Trinitarian skylarking." For heaven's sake, sometimes living in
> > >> this town is like playing telephone. What begins as a pile of horse
> > >> shit up on Steakhouse Hill becomes Mt. Ranier on Palouse River
> > >> Driver. Let's bury this manure once and for all, shall we? Please?
> > >>
> > > Sorry about your pile, but maybe it will make the grass grow.
> > >
> > > Mat
> >
> >
> >J. Ford has never been positively identified on Vision 2020 as Jackie
> >Woolf. J. Ford has been accused of being Jackie Woolf, always by
> >members of Christ Church like Doug Farris who ask the same tired and
> >silly question, "Why are you so bitter?" One might ask Mr. Farris the
> >same question or, better yet, why he cares? Anyhow, I am acquainted
> >with Jackie Woolf. I'll email her and ask if she was ever "caught" on
> >the Wilson property taking photos. I'll also ask her if she was ever
> >there taking photos without being caught. Sounds like pure (and
> >paranoid) fantasy to me.
> >
> >Joan
> >
> >
> >Joan Opyr
> >Northern Idaho Editor
> >New West Magazine
> >www.newwest.net
> >www.joanopyr.com
> >
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