[Vision2020] ice rink
Chris Storhok
cstorhok at co.fairbanks.ak.us
Thu Apr 6 09:55:20 PDT 2006
Donovan,
You are such a comedian.
So is your solution to shut it down for good depriving hundreds of children
and adults an opportunity to exercise as well as participate in team sports
and community social events that they would otherwise not partake in? Do
you have a better solution? Or are you of the belief that sports and
exercise is worthless?
What is your solution to the rise in obesity seen in today's youth and
adults?
Do you know that the rink makes enough money to sustain itself? Are you
aware that a fully enclosed facility with longer operating hours will allow
the rink to serve more customers, expand its programs for youth and adults
alike and offer more opportunities for citizens to alleviate the winter
blues?
Is your solution to recreation issues to not fund anything and let the users
pay for everything?
Is that your solution to schools, highways, airports, etc?
Where do you stand?
Chris
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From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:51 AM
To: Chris Storhok; 'Tom Ivie'; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] ice rink
Chris,
If you heat the ice to 33 degrees or higher it will no longer be to loud for
the neighbors. It would be cheaper too.
_DJA
Chris Storhok <cstorhok at co.fairbanks.ak.us> wrote:
>From what I understand Rotary and the County Commissioners are trying to
work out a final plan. At this point the plan is to enclose the current
facility with a metal soundproof building. The footprint will be big enough
to support a full size rink and support facilities; however they will
continue to use the current rink. The hope is that with the soundproof
building they will be able to extend operating hours back to the original
length and hopefully make enough money to justify expansion to a full size
rink.
I have not heard if Tidyman's is back into play or if there are other sites.
As for the horse arena, it is used in the summer but as to the extent of its
use I no longer know how often.
Also, I must make a public apology....until I was in town last month for
Phil's funeral I never realized exactly how loud that rink is. I had a
chance to walk around the outside of the facility and finally figured out
why the neighbors were complaining so much. That place is loud.
Fairbanks has 5 indoor enclosed rinks that produce no sound outside of the
walls of each structure. We have 17 outside rinks without covers that do
produce noise but it dissipates within just a few feet and bothers no one.
So with my current experience of rinks in Fairbanks and my past connection
to the Moscow rink I went visited the facility and discovered how wrong I
was about the noise from that rink.
So to the neighbors who I argued with in public hearings: I was wrong. You
are right. The Moscow rink has a design problem that really amplifies the
heck out of activities inside and frankly is a nuisance.
Please support the county commissioners and Rotary's effort to fully enclose
the current rink in a sound proof building. That effort will be a win-win
for everyone involved much like the compromise for design of the ball fields
off of Palouse River Drive.
Thanks,
Chris Storhok
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From: Tom Ivie [mailto:the_ivies3 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:03 AM
To: Chris Storhok; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] ice rink
Actually,
Whatever happened with the ice rink? I have heard several ideas; move to
Tidyman's, build a permanent building with a regulation size rink and keep
the other for figure skating, etc.
Does the horse arena at the fairgrounds ever get used? -Tom
Chris Storhok <cstorhok at co.fairbanks.ak.us> wrote:
Enclose the ice rink and keep 'em on ice...after all "a child on ice is
rarely in hot water"
Chris Storhok
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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:45 AM
To: James Reynolds; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Playfield
And how much are these 7 playfields that we can only use four months out the
year going to cost?
What are the kids going to do the other 8 months out of the year?
Just curious.
_DJA
James Reynolds <chapandmaize at hotmail.com> wrote:
Yeaaaa! and a wonderful job done by the playfield committee in turning out a
compromise that gets the kids their fields and saves the integrity of the
arboretum and the local neighborhood. They also did an outstanding job in
realizing the hazardous access issues and rectified those problems to the
extent possible.
That's what I'm talking about!!!! Democracy can work.
Lets get the fields on the ground, like Ament says, as quickly as possible.
James Reynolds
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