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[Art Deco]

There is no need to fix the dilemma that Socrates posed.  I just posted it 
for general knowledge.

It is a true dilemma.

As to the understanding of it showing philosophical aptitude, the 
intelligent reader can decide for themselves if Jones' answer reveals said 
aptitude.

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Jones" <credenda at moscow.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More Qualified Writer


> Wayne believes merely citing authorities ("Socrates" "many philosophers") 
> fixes a false dilemma. Is that what he means by philosophical aptitude?
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> The Euthyphro dilemma is false: 
> http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol5/none5-2.htm
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> Doug J.
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> Art Deco wrote:
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>> Actually what Joe wrote is a version of a dilemma attributed first to 
>> Socrates:
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>> Is something good purely because God says so or does God say so because 
>> it is good.
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>> If the first, then goodness is an arbitrary judgment of God -- 
>> anything it/she/he declares as good is good; if the second, then God is 
>> relying on some standard apart from itself/herself/himself.
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>> Many philosophers have pointed out that understanding the problem posed 
>> by this dilemma is in part a test of whether the reader/thinker has 
>> philosophical aptitude.
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>>
>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>> deco at moscow.com
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Jones" <credenda at moscow.com>
>> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:03 AM
>> Subject: [Vision2020] More Qualified Writer
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>>>
>>> Analytic philosopher Joe "a more qualified person" Campbell complained 
>>> about Iverson in the Daily News:
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>>>> "First, it is a false dilemma."
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>>> And then Joe himself, just a few lines below...
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>>>> "If God came up with a new scripture making abortion moral, then 
>>>> Iverson would have to admit that it was so even though he now thinks 
>>>> that it is immoral. If Iverson claims that God would never do that, 
>>>> then he is relying on something more than God’s mere words."
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>>> DJ
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