[Vision2020] "Vandal"ism

[Tom Hansen]

Sean -

Is it your understanding that hacking into a university server for the 
purpose of committing a fraud (humorous or otherwise) should be considered 
civil disobedience?

Further, is it also your understanding that defacing property (legally 
pronounced as "vandalism") is also civil disobedience?

Perhaps you are on to something.

Things could have been alot worse, right?  They could have chalked "Hitler 
Youth" onto the sidewalk outside the Admin Building.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho



>From: sean <o2design at wsu.edu>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] "Vandal"ism
>Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:09:28 -0700
>
>It strikes me as odd that physically non-destructive civil disobedience can 
>be the tactic of choice (and the object of praise) by one political 
>movement, only to have it be the object of disgust and overly serious 
>consternation by another.  When Earth First! does it those they poke fun 
>at/curtail hate those tactics.  They are called illegal, vandalism, or 
>worse.  The monkey wrenchers themselves call it civil disobedience 
>warranted by the cause.
>
>Now, when bogus letters from an administrator are created or a mocking 
>welcome sign is altered, it's--you guessed it--illegal, vandalism, or 
>worse.  Why aren't more folks laughing?  Perhaps because they don't like 
>the joke (ie, the political stance).  The means of the message is attacked 
>instead.
>
>Maybe what is really not appreciated is that "two can play that game", and 
>that tactics held dear by one political slant can also be absconded by 'the 
>enemy'.  EF!ers get a kick out of sugar in a D8's fuel tank, but cry foul 
>when Sage Brush Rebellion-ites drive a dozer into federal land cutting a 
>new road.
>
>Perhaps tolerance should be not simply a nice catch phrase for ideologies 
>but also for means by which free speech is conveyed.  Unlikely, I suspect, 
>because tolerance is a sham; when push comes to shove neither side 
>tolerates what they despise.  And neither side will likely tolerate a 
>creative use of subversion when the message it carries is so intolerable.
>
>s
>
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>>On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:31 PM, Doug Jones wrote:
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>>>Wow, Nick "suspected a hoax immediately." Good work, Nick.
>>>
>>>The humor is pretty flat; I hope no one over here did it. Ask Joan O.
>>>
>>>Doug Jones
>>
>>Yes, why not ask me?  Unlike those hilarious "skylarkers" at the Kirk, I 
>>don't find vandalism amusing.  I didn't laugh when your Pastor's pals 
>>altered the "Welcome to Moscow" sign to read "Welcome to Hooters," and I 
>>was easily able to contain my guffaws when more of your lot (with the aid 
>>of a now ex-University of Idaho administrator) used the university's own 
>>photocopiers and fax machines to send out hoax announcements of a "Topless 
>>And Proud" conference in the College of Liberal Arts.  Ooh, my side.  
>>Would someone please pass the feather?
>>
>>While I often laugh at you, Doug Jones, I never laugh with you.
>>
>>Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>>www.auntie-establishment.com
>>
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>--
>Thanks,
>s
>
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>         Sean Michael
>         .dwg
>
>
>"the climbs are life"


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