[Vision2020] Earmark and intial comments on Ralph's Religion and morality

[Phil Nisbet]

Ted

This is like saying that if somebody posts an article from Hitler, a Jew is 
required to post positive proof that his objective in writing the article is 
anti-Semitic.

Would it be ad hominem in your mind for a black to point out that the workls 
of David Duke are not exactly pro-African American and that his logic is 
skewed because of his personal hatreds?  Are we required to refute solely by 
logic hate speech directed at racial and religioous minorities or always be 
accused of "the politics of personal destruction" for pointing out previous 
racist remarks remarks by a speaker?

Phil Nisbet


>From: Tbertruss at aol.com
>To: chasuk at gmail.com, pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Earmark and intial comments on Ralph's Religion 
>and morality
>Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 22:06:48 EDT
>
>
>chasuk at gmail.com wrote on 10/1/05:
>
>"My second comment: would you kindly attack the substance of
>Mr. Paul's study, rather than his reputation?  I don't remember the
>Latin which describes this type of fallacious logic; maybe Nick can
>help me out here."
>
>I'm only a lowly former student of the illustrious Nick Gier, but perhaps 
>the
>Latin phrase you seek to describe an attack based on reputation is 
>"argument
>ad hominem."
>
>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ad%20hominem
>ad hom·i·nem    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (hm-nm, -nm)
>adj. Appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason:
>Debaters should avoid ad hominem arguments that question their opponents'
>motives.
>[Latin  : ad, to + hominem, accusative of hom, man.]
>
>Odd that dictionary.com offers the advice to avoid argument ad hominem, 
>when
>the evidence is clear that it is often a very successful tactic to negate 
>the
>effectiveness in real terms in society of any argument based on reason and
>fact, thus the "politics of personal destruction" that appears to dominate 
>our
>political discourse, indeed, in discussions of all sorts between people
>everywhere.
>
>Ted Moffett

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