[Vision2020] Courtney, WalMart and the poor

Tue Nov 22 07:26:02 PST 2005

If liberals hate the poor, I guess I'm chock full of self-loathing.  I'm so 
poor I can't afford to pay attention.  I'm so poor I have a tumbleweed for a 
pet.  My liberal friends and I are so poor we're getting together over 
Christmas to exchange glances.....                                           

Carl Westberg Jr.

>From: Joan Opyr <joanopyr at earthlink.net>
>To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Courtney, WalMart and the poor
>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:35:19 -0800
>
>In response to Keely's most eloquent testimony, I would just like to say a 
>very loud "Bravo!" and a very humble "me, too."
>
>Liberals hate the poor?  Really?  Good grief, Dale Courtney: do you have 
>any idea how many liberals *are* poor?  Or how many liberals (like me) were 
>once dirt poor and that's the very reason why we're liberals?  Some of us 
>believe that we have a social obligation to ensure that everyone has equal 
>access to a quality education and equal access to quality health care; we 
>believe that there should be a minimum standard of living for everyone; we 
>believe that in a nation as rich as the United States, no one should ever 
>go to bed homeless or hopeless or hungry.  We really believe that no child 
>should be left behind, and that's why we are so disgusted to find that that 
>phrase has been co-opted by a man and a movement determined to further 
>enrich the haves at the expense of the have-nots.
>
>I don't want to mingle with the poor at the Wal-Mart?  You think I want to 
>waltz instead with the rich at Nordstrom's?  You really are a complete 
>ma-roon.  Honestly, Dale, "bullshit" isn't strong enough.  You don't know 
>shit from Shinola.  I don't give a damn about your Libertarianism; it's 
>your professed Christianity that worries me.  It seems to bear no 
>resemblance whatsoever to the teachings of Jesus.  How hard it will be for 
>those who have wealth to enter the Kingdom of God.  Are you clear on that?  
>Or are you too busy running your nasty blog, slamming public education, and 
>policing my bedroom to actually read your New Testament?
>
>If you believe that Jesus is coming, Dale, then you'd better start looking 
>busy.  You are a camel; you need to pass through the eye of a needle.  
>Please bear in mind that neither Jenny Craig nor Slimfast are sound 
>theological options.  What are you going to do?
>
>Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>www.joanopyr.com
>
>
>On 21 Nov 2005, at 20:29, keely emerinemix wrote:
>
>>
>>Once again, I find inspiration, if not revulsion, in Dale Courtney's blog. 
>>  This time our sage blogmeister has quoted extensively from the 
>>pro-Wal-Mart forces, and while some of the arguments are the same-old, 
>>same-old, one in particular is downright sickening.
>>
>>It seems that those of us who are identified as "liberals," either by 
>>ourselves or others, don't want Wal-Mart around because of our animosity 
>>toward the poor.  Liberals hate the poor, asserts the blogmeister, and so 
>>we hate places "they" might congregate.
>>
>>Yep, Dale and his buddies have nailed it -- rather than objecting to 
>>Wal-Mart because the company exploits the poor and contributes to the 
>>failure of small businesses and the breakdown of community, we libs hate 
>>Wal-Mart because poor people shop there.   We evidently don't like 
>>shopping around poor people, who may, we learn, be overweight, shabbily 
>>dressed, and uncouth.  It seems we prefer to shop where our fellow 
>>shoppers and sales clerks are snappily dressed, educated, and slim.  And, 
>>just for good measure, our disdain for the poor extends to wanting to deny 
>>them the $2300-plus a year the Wallies insist poor families save by 
>>shopping at Cheap Plastic Nirvana.  Evidently at our last liberal 
>>get-together, we progressives all conspired to make sure that poor people 
>>spend too much on food storage containers, corn flakes, and pocket 
>>T-shirts -- and thus was born our opposition to a Moscow Wal-Mart 
>>Supercenter.
>>
>>Dale, please indulge me for a moment:  Bullshit.
>>
>>Your affirmation and repetition of such divisive, stupid, and calloused 
>>remarks requires a stronger response, but I'll stop there.  I sometimes 
>>wonder if you even believe the things you say, and I hesitate to dignify 
>>your comments with a response, but this time you've scraped the bottom of 
>>the rhetorical barrel AND shown us your heart besides.  It ain't pretty.  
>>You know nothing of what motivates me to do anything, and your smugness 
>>reveals nothing of your concern for the poor and everything about your 
>>hatred of people you disagree with.  It's a hell of a testimony, and I 
>>mean that as literally as possible.
>>
>>keely emerine mix
>>
>>Hey, Dale --
>>
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