[Vision2020] XYY Syndrome On list

Phil Nisbet pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 10 18:32:28 PST 2005


Saundra

The study from Denmark is worth looking at to compare it to whar you were 
told at the CDC.

http://www.aaa.dk/TURNER/ENGELSK/incidence.htm

Note that the Danes give assistance to parents with children with sex 
chromosome abnormalities and we do not here in the US.  Behavioral problems 
are not significant, however, remedial teaching seems to have a high 
incidence for all XXX, XXY, XYY and other such children.  The study notes 
that the kids normalize when they reach 15-17, but have younger probelms in 
learning.

They had the following recommendations;

The information and assistance given to parents of a child with a sex 
chromosome abnormality can be of many different kinds:

1. General information about the mental and physical development of children 
and adults with the chromosome constitution in question as well as 
information about hormone treatment in Turner syndrome and Klinefelter 
syndrome.

2. Information about what they can do for their child according to the needs 
revealed by follow-up studies, ie, stimulation of different types, 
participation in group activities, sports, and creative activities of 
different kinds.

3. Help to get their child into a good day institution and/or kindergarten 
at an early age.

4. Help to get extra stimulation in kindergarten if needed.

5. Help to get speech therapy if needed.

6. Help to get the best possible tutorial assistance-remedial teaching 
measures if needed and for as long as required.

7. Help to change schools if necessary, for instance to a school with better 
teaching, earlier access to remedial teaching, or to special small group 
teaching including teaching outside the school.

8. Psychological-psychiatric assistance if needed.

9. Recommendation to attend regular follow-up clinics for children with sex 
chromosome aberrations if such service is available.

10. Recommendation to join a self-help group, contact group, if such groups 
exist, or encouragement to start such groups, if they are not available.

Phil Nisbet


>From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] XYY Syndrome
>Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:59:51 -0800
>
>Phil Nisbet wrote:
>"Kids with it have an extra dose of male, but that tends to make them 
>10-15%
>less bright than average, likely to be over agressive, suffer from cerebral
>palsy like disfunction and a host of other problems."
>
>Being somewhat familiar with 47, XYY Syndrome, I'd like to ask Mr. Nisbet 
>if
>he'd care to cite his sources as the information he presents is contrary to
>what I've learned.
>
>Specifically with respect to "brightness,"  boys and men with 47, XYY
>Syndrome are typically of NORMAL intelligence.
>
>Also, current thinking and studies do NOT support the notion that XYY males
>are more aggressive than their peers.  There seems to be a tendency towards
>being more *active,* but that's not the same as being overly aggressive, an
>incorrect stereotype those familiar with the population have worked very
>hard to dispel.
>
>I had reason to be chatting with a researcher at the National Institutes of
>Health this morning, and he asked me to pass along the following resources
>for those interested in learning more accurate information about 47, XYY
>Syndrome:
>http://www.aaa.dk/TURNER/ENGELSK/XYY.HTM
>http://mchneighborhood.ichp.edu/pacnorgg/media/Sex_Chrom/xyy_eng.pdf
>
>
>Saundra Lund
>Moscow, ID
>
>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
>nothing.
>Edmund Burke
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>On Behalf Of Phil Nisbet
>Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:40 PM
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] XYY Syndrome
>
>Not to put too fine a point on it, XYY syndrome is a not very fun handicap.
>
>Kids with it have an extra dose of male, but that tends to make them 10-15%
>less bright than average, likely to be over agressive, suffer from cerebral
>palsy like disfunction and a host of other problems.  Between 1 in 878 and 
>1
>in 1,768 boys are born with this ailment and it is not treatable, there is
>no cure.
>
>If you think of all the potentially worst traits that we males are likely 
>to
>inflict upon this world and think about doubling the thing that makes us 
>so,
>then figure what a doubling of it would make a person like, XYY is the
>answer.
>
>Just something to think about as you beat each other over the head.
>
>Phil Nisbet
>
>
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