[Vision2020] kirk email

g. crabtree jampot at adelphia.net
Tue Nov 8 16:55:44 PST 2005


tommy, i just got back from the polls, your negation has now been negated! neeners all around
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Hansen 
  To: 'Joan Opyr' ; 'Vision2020 Moscow' 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] kirk email


  It's not like this is the first time that "management" at Christ Church was politically active locally.

   

  Like the song goes:

   

  http://www.tomandrodna.com/CC_Politics/

   

  Take care, Moscow.

   

  Tom Hansen

  Moscow, Idaho

   

  PS to Doug's Boy - I just got back from the polls.  Your vote has now been negated.

   

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  "When people sin, everybody has to pay."

  - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)

  For more details:  http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse

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  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Joan Opyr
  Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:31 PM
  To: Vision2020 Moscow
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] kirk email

   


  On 8 Nov 2005, at 10:53, Bill London wrote:

  Is Christ Church a political organization?
  Sure, and that has been obvious for years (for example, on 7/1/02, Doug Wilson testified before the Moscow City Council on the nudity ordinance representing his congregation as a voting bloc)
  Is that a problem for Christ Church?
  Yup.  Due to tax law, etc, churches are not supposed to pursue a political agenda and certainly not supposed to support individual candidates.  Dale Courtney (who is not a church official for the deniability reason) skirts the very edge of that law with his support message and "questionaire"
  BL


  Which brings up an interesting point: in 2002, Peg Hamlett was the only Moscow City Council to vote against the new Wilson-promoted breast and butt crack ordinance. What has changed since then? Have Doug and company buried the hatchet for the sake of political expedience? If so, then how does this jibe with their (repeated) claims to act entirely and always in accord with eternal, never-changing, God-given Biblical principle?

  Of course, I support Doug Wilson's individual right to free speech. It doesn't matter that he's a minister; so am I. (For those who don't remember this particular "lark," I was ordained in December 2003 via the Universal Life Church, http://www.ulc.org. This past September, I performed my first wedding. My signature on the marriage license made it all legal.) What is objectionable -- and not kosher legally -- is Doug's using his pulpit and church resources to directly campaign for political causes and/or candidates. Has he stepped over the line here? Yes, many times. Witness the church emails encouraging members to vote for Paul Kimmel as county commissioner. I believe that my mother-in-law, Rose, brought those to the light of day.

  The shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Michael will denounce this as rude speculation, but Doug Wilson's name on Dale Courtney's .pdf file means (to me) that he had something to do with Dale's "questionnaire." No surprises there. Doug has more fingers in more pies than Cyrus O'Leary.

  Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
  www.auntie-establishment.com



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