[Vision2020] kirk email

Tue Nov 8 12:44:13 PST 2005

Mr. London is correct that MCA was created under
501-c-4. However, it's leadership no longer takes into
consideration the voice of its supporters before
making endorsements like it did in 2002 which has made
some active members in the past, such as myself, a
little cross. MCA is also suppose to present both
sides of an issue, as it says on the homepage, not
just one side and then tell us how to vote.

Second, not to defend members of Christ Church, but
keeping their right to vote does not violate any
federal laws. Christ Church is not out there promoting
candidates, knocking on peoples doors, putting
candidate fliers up on their property or writing
checks to candidates. Obviously, they all have things
in common and are going to vote similarly and talk
amongst each other about the candidates, just as
Catholics, Mormons, and other large groups do at every
election. 

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold

I voted, and I actually voted for someone I hope I do
not have to ever vote for again.  

--- Bill London <london at moscow.com> wrote:

> The MCA is a non-profit political organization,
> created under federal tax
> statute 501 (c) 4 (not the usual non-profit 501 (c)
> 3 statute) for the exact
> purpose of generating and sharing a political
> agenda.
> What is the appropriate federal law under which
> Christ Church is pursuing
> its political agenda?
> BL
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donovan Arnold"
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>;
> <kjajmix1 at msn.com>;
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] kirk email
> 
> 
> > Spin Spin, J Ford. Spin it for all it is worth.
> >
> > Dale can send his opinion, right or wrong as it
> might
> > be or how anyone views it, to anyone who is
> willing to
> > accept it.
> >
> > Content is not and should not be censored to what
> you
> > want it to say. MCA, a non-political organization,
> > sent out an email too to all their members, and
> they
> > are even making phone calls in support of Nancy
> and
> > Bob Stout. I think if that is fair, I also think
> that
> > anything Dale or any individual in Christ Church
> does
> > to voice their opinion is fair.
> >
> > "Tom, et al have made public comments regarding
> their
> > > choices.  NOT once have
> > > these latter people ever said "for the future"
> of
> > > one entity should a person
> > > vote/not vote for candidates."-J Ford
> >
> > BS JFord, Mr. Hansen has been saying to vote for
> Aaron
> > Ament of the future of children, neighborhoods,
> etc.
> >
> > I also know lots of people that are voting just on
> the
> > 3rd street bridge issue. Which I think is a
> non-issue
> > until much later because there is no money to
> build it
> > anyway.
> >
> > Take Care,
> >
> > Donovan J Arnold
> >
> > PS, I am going to vote for liberals and
> conservatives
> > in this election.
> >
> >
> > --- J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My point was/is, is that Dale sent the e-mail to
> his
> > > church members - Joan,
> > > Tom, et al have made public comments regarding
> their
> > > choices.  NOT once have
> > > these latter people ever said "for the future"
> of
> > > one entity should a person
> > > vote/not vote for candidates.  They have
> continually
> > > stated their choices
> > > have to do with what is best for the ENTIRE
> > > community.
> > >
> > > THAT is a politcal e-mail that was sent and
> > > CC/Doug/Dale, etc. have
> > > continually stated that they are not politically
> > > motivated nor have a
> > > political agenda.
> > >
> > > J  ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Donovan Arnold
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> > > >To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>,
> > > vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] kirk email
> > > >Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:25:33 -0800 (PST)
> > > >
> > > >"See what I mean, a a confidante of Doug
> Wilson's
> > > sent
> > > >an inflammatory email to the Christ
> Church/Trinity
> > > >Reformed Church email list, strongly
> discouraging
> > > >church members from voting for Nancy Chaney,
> Aaron
> > > >Ament, Kit Craine, Evan Holmes, and Bob
> Stout."--
> > > >Keely Mix
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Ms. Moscow Gossip Queen do you ever stop? What
> was
> > > >inflammatory about it Keely? Was there
> something
> > > wrong
> > > >with it? Cannot a member of Christ Church send
> an
> > > >email out saying who they do not support in the
> > > >election? It is OK for Joan Opyr and Tom Hansen
> to
> > > >urge people to vote for Nancy, but it
> inflammatory
> > > to
> > > >tell people to vote for Peg? How hypocritical.
> > > >
> > > >-DJA
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: "Dale Courtney" <dmcourtn at moscow.com>
> > > > > To: <Kirkers & Trinity Reformed members>
> > > > > Subject: 8 Nov Moscow Mayoral and City
> Council
> > > > > Elections
> > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:51:32 -0800
> > > > > Kirkers & Trinity Reformed members:
> > > > >
> > > > > As you may well know, Tuesday (8 Nov) is
> > > Election
> > > > > Day.
> > > > >
> > > > > For Moscow voters, this election will be
> > > critical to
> > > > > the future of New Saint
> > > > > Andrews, Atlas School, Christ Church, and
> > > Trinity
> > > > > Reformed.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Daily News says that zoning is the
> critical
> > > > > topic in the 8 November
> > > > > election.  I agree with that assessment.
> > > > >
> > > > > With that in mind, a group of six Christ
> > > > > Church/Trinity Reformed members
> > > > > (without any direction from the elders, it
> is
> > > > > important to note), created a
> > > > > questionnaire that was sent to each of the
> > > > > candidates.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can find their answers to our survey
> over at
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
>http://right-mind.us/2005CityCouncilQuestionnaire.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Note: three refused to answer our
> questionnaire
> > > even
> > > > > after repeated
> > > > > follow-up requests: Kit Craine, John Dodson,
> and
> > > > > Evan Holmes.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can also find the candidates' answers
> > > concerning
> > > > > NSA remaining downtown
> > > > > over at
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
>http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2005/10/12/37388.aspx
> > > > >
> > > > > There are two candidates that are outspoken
> and
> > > > > adamant about getting NSA
> 
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