[Vision2020] Anti smoking petition

[Carl Westberg]

Donovan acknowledges that "not everyone goes to a bar to have sex, dance, 
and have a smoke."  Well, no, that's chronogically out of order.  I go to 
dance, have sex, and have a smoke.  In that order.  Not that it's happened 
in several decades.                                                          
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                             Carl Westberg 
Jr.

>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Mark Dinges <mdinges at pullman.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Anti smoking petition
>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:48:26 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I use to smoke two to three packs a day for almost 12
>years. I hate cigarette companies. I think they are
>evil, and they should be forced to operate underground
>like all the other drug dealers that prey on the
>young.
>
>
>But I am curious why they want to ban smoking in
>certain places like fast food restaurants and bars?
>
>If someone is concerned about their health, why would
>they be in a fast food restaurant or a bar? If they
>are actually in the restaurant enough to get cancer
>from second hand smoke they would probably die from
>clogged arteries beforehand. If they are in a bar
>enough to get cancer from second hand smoke they are
>probably going to die of something else sooner.
>
>What is the point? I want smoking in these places
>because it keeps people from frequenting them. I think
>it is a good thing to encourage people not to go to
>the bars and fast food restaurants everyday.
>
>I also fail to understand why people are pushing for
>smoke free bars? Why not ban music, dancing and
>alcohol too? That is what a bar is, a smoke filled,
>loud, noisy room with a bunch of drunk people dancing
>or trying to go to home with someone they just met.
>The drinking, and unprotected sex with strangers is
>going to kill you long before second hand smoke will.
>
>
>Now I know what some of you are thinking. "Donovan,
>not everyone goes to a bar to have sex, dance, and
>have a smoke. Some just want to dance, socialize, and
>relax without having that damn smoke in their face."
>You are right. I agree, SOME people that go to bars do
>that. However, there are plenty of bars and other
>places where they can already do this. There is
>currently NO law that prevents a bar from being a
>smoke free establishment. There is no law forcing
>people to attend smoke filled bars. You do not need to
>go to a bar in order to survive. Children cannot enter
>a bar, so no issue here either.
>
>So why take the free choice of law abiding, hard
>working Americans to smoke in an establishment that
>you do not have to attend? Why legally deny them of
>this right?
>
>The sole bases or this law seems to be that IF if a
>non-smoker wants to attend a bar they can without the
>smoke. But this assumption is WRONG. By banning these
>places people are going to be smoking outside EVERY
>bar and EVERYWHERE else. I see it already. When you
>are walking down the street you have to inhale the
>smoke. I would rather have them in the bar, so I do
>not have to inhale the smoke. Banning smoking
>everywhere is like banning toilets everywhere. People
>are going to do it anyway, you might as well restrain
>it and make it as safe as possible by making
>designated places that you can avoid. No places to
>smoke inside means they will smoke everywhere outside
>at random where I cannot avoid the smoke.
>
>Why not ban music from bars too? That loud music has
>pr oven to damage the eardrum permanently. Why not ban
>drinking, that kills people? And intoxicated people
>can be just as annoying as second hand smoke,
>especially when they puke in your car. Oh, and
>definitely ban unprotected sex with a stranger. On
>second thought, let us just ban bars and drinking
>altogether if we are out to stop harm to innocent
>people.
>
>But, really, if people really want to tackle smoking,
>why not make them only available in liquor stores, be
>21 or older, charge $6 a pack, and only allow them to
>smoke in their own homes, and give them free
>counseling and quitting smoking assistance.
>
>BUT PLEASE do not make more laws that make smokers
>smoke everywhere I go walking down the street, keep
>them indoors in places I can avoid.
>
>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold (ex-smoker)
>
>
>--- Mark Dinges <mdinges at pullman.com> wrote:
> > Can someone please tell me where I can sign the
> > petition to get the
> > smoking ban for bars/etc. put on the WA ballot.
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
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