[Vision2020] Response to Saundra

Sun May 15 15:32:10 PDT 2005

Hey Wayne, Saundra, Rose, et al.,  

If NSA is in fact approved to teach higher academic
courses by the SBOE, which it required to be an
"educational institution" why don't you email the SBOE
website administrator and inform them of their mistake
to exclude NSA from all the other state approved and
accredited colleges and universities? 

Saundra, thanks for the post. I miss the old days of
last month and the long vindictive slanderous posts
that contain no pertinent information regarding the
issue at hand but instead to indicate to all readers
the "V" in V2020 proudly and unabashedly stands for
"Venom". 

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold

PS I apologize to Joel for saying Joe instead of Joel.
I am sure this missing "l" will have great
ramifications in the minds of some on the facts
regarding the case.

--- Saundra Lund <sslund at adelphia.net> wrote:

> Hi Wayne & Rose & Other Visionaries,
> 
> The most appropriate thing I can write right now
> about Donovan Arnold's
> failure to address the facts as they exist is,
> "There are none so blind as
> those who will not see."
> 
> Or perhaps, you can lead a horse to water but you
> can't make him/her drink.
> 
> I provided the same information specifically to
> Donovan right here on V2020
> several months ago, but since those relevant facts
> don't fit into the
> picture he *wants* to see, he simply ignores them. 
> It seems to be much
> easier for him to construct his own reality and
> facts be damned, which is an
> approach we've seen him take publicly on V2020 over
> and over and over again
> in recent months.
> 
> So, kudos to you and Rose and everyone else for your
> patience (a virtue I'm
> still working on) in trying to yet again explain the
> facts as they actually
> exist in the real world, but I'm sorry to say that
> factual information
> doesn't seem to be what Donovan is interested in.
> 
> PS:  For those interested, it's *Joel* Plaskon, not
> Joe Plaskon.  For
> someone who spent so much time on the City web site
> and who apparently
> attended Thursday evening's hearing, it seems a
> simple matter to me to get
> the guy's name correct.  Oh, but wait . . . that's a
> *factual* kind of
> thing.
> 
> 
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
> 
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is
> for good people to do
> nothing.
> Edmund Burke
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Art Deco
> Sent: Sunday, 15 May 2005 10:15 AM
> To: Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] State of Idaho and NSA
> 
> Donovan,
>  
> Holy Jesus!
>  
> I am reposting Rose's clear, incisive note with
> additional emphasis below.
> Perhaps you need to turn on HTML email formatting to
> make it easier to read
> what cannot be any clearer English.  Note very
> carefully the use of the word
> "or" in Section 11-9.47 of the Moscow Zoning
> Ordinance.  Notice that there
> is no, none, not any, nada, very conspicuously
> absent mention of the word
> "accreditation" in this emphasized first qualifying
> disjunct*,[1], of the
> definition in the Moscow ordinance section below. 
> Hence, your:
>  
> This certificate is not the same thing
> as academic approval and accreditation by the State
> Board of Education.
> Title 33 Chapter 1 Section 107-06
> (a) of Idaho Code states,
> 
> is not applicable.  
>  
> Perhaps with all your A's in logic, you need to
> review the meaning of and
> truth tables for disjunctive* clauses/sentences.  If
> Rose has misquoted the
> ordinance so as to leave out the word accreditation
> coupled by a conjunction
> in the definition, please direct us to the
> applicable URL so that we can
> correct our mistake.
> 
> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
> deco at moscow.com
>  
> *Disjunct: A clause in a compound sentence joined to
> that sentence with the
> word "or" or a similar cognate.
>  
> For remediation see: 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_table
> 
>  
> 
> 	----- Original Message ----- 
> 	From: DonaldH675 at aol.com 
> 	To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
> 	Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:27 PM
> 	Subject: [Vision2020] State of Idaho and NSA
> 
> 	
> 
> 		Visionaries:
> 
> 		I have really, really tried not to engage in this
> conversation - after all, there is only room for one
> know-it-all at a time
> on V2020.  So, move over Donovan and while you are
> moving please read the
> paragraphs below.  The first one deals with city
> code.  The second one,
> easily found on the NSA website, outlines the role
> of the State of Idaho in
> so far as NSA is concerned.  You will note upon
> comparison of the
> requirements of Moscow zoning code and the
> acknowledgement of the State of
> Idaho that NSA is indeed recognized as an
> institution of higher learning,
> that you have, yet again seized the wrong end of the
> stick.
> 
> 		Paragraph 1
> 
> 		City of Moscow  - Title 4 - Zoning Code
> 
> 		Sec. 11-9. Definitions. . . .
> 		47. Institution, Educational. A college or
> university
> supported by public or private funds, tuitions,
> contributions or endowments,
> giving advanced academic instructions as [1]
> approved by the State Board of
> Education     or         [2] by a recognized
> accrediting agency, excluding
> preschool, elementary and junior or senior high
> schools, and trade and
> commercial schools; including fraternity and
> sorority houses. (emphasis
> added)
> 
> 		Paragraph 2
> 
> 
> 		Authorization by the State of Idaho
> 
> 
> 		Updated 13 October 2004
> 
> 		Prior to the 2003-2004 academic year, the College
> registered
> with the State Board of Education
> <http://www.idahoboardofed.org/>  as a
> non-accredited postsecondary institution, as
> required by law. The Idaho
> State Board of Education's Chief Academic Officer
> then issued the College a
> "Certificate of Approval" which stated, "This is to
> certify that New St.
> Andrews College is approved by the Idaho State Board
> of Education to offer
> courses in Idaho." The "Certificate of Approval" was
> issued for each
> calendar year, effective July 1 through June 30.
> 		http://www.nsa.edu/mission/authorization.html
> 
> 		This issue is really a no-brainer, and one of the
> undisputed
> facts of the case - 
> 
> 		Rose Huskey
> 
> 	 
> 	"One cannot level one's moral lance at every evil
> in the universe.
> There are just too many of them. But you can do
> something, and the
> difference between doing something and doing nothing
> is everything." Daniel
> Berrigan
> 
> 
>
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