[Vision2020] Due Tribute

cjs cjs at turbonet.com
Wed May 4 13:28:19 PDT 2005


Donovan - I agree and thank you again. 

Keely - you are supposed to represent the majority of your constituents for clearly you do not. I again ask for your resignation.

Phil


-----Original message-----
From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Date: Wed,  4 May 2005 10:48:20 -0700
To: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Due Tribute

> Keely,
> 
> You can justify your actions, or inactions, all you
> want. But the fact of the matter is that members of
> the Facilities Planning Committee attacked two members
> of the community for publicly criticizing the plan put
> forth by the FPC. They did not attack or address the
> ideas or questions they raised. They attacked the
> people and their character. I am not bringing up a
> church because no church was mentioned that I recall.
> Nor am I saying EVERY member did attack or say
> inappropriate things. But many did and the rest said
> nothing to correct them. Or just added to the flame.
> This is NOT the way public officials during an open
> public meeting should behave. And one of people the
> FPC members attacked served in the military (this had
> nothing to with their attack or my argument but since
> Keely threw this into one of her arguments in an
> attempt to make an emotional appeal, I will too). 
> 
>  
> "it's hardly strange that the group that forwarded the
> proposal to Dr. Donicht, who then recommended it to
> the
> board, which then voted unanimously to approve it,
> would work for its passage."
> 
> Of course not. I admire people that work on their OWN
> time after work to make changes in their community.
> However, that does not give them the right to plan the
> campaign and solicit donations for the cause during a
> public meeting using public facilities. Nor does it
> give them the right to attack the character, religion,
> or values of those that disagree with them and express
> their opinion in a lawful manner. 
> 
> You can attack the press all you want. I could care
> less. You can take pictures of the editorial board and
> tape them to your dart board. However, as an official
> in an elected position, attacking them publicly at a
> public meeting, is not appropriate.
> 
> Keely, you cannot say that you represented the
> majority of your constituents because they voted
> against your position. Nonetheless, you did stand up
> for what you thought was right. And that is admirable,
> even if you were wrong in the end. However, I expect a
> person elected to representative their constituency
> not to ignore their rights, dignity, and perspectives
> in their official capacity when in the role of their
> representative. The majority of people that opposed
> this levy deserve to have a representative too in
> which to express their point of view.  
> 
> Take Care,
> 
> Donovan J Arnold
> 
> 
> --- keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> > First of all, it's hardly strange that the group
> > that forwarded the proposal 
> > to Dr. Donicht, who then recommended it to the
> > board, which then voted 
> > unanimously to approve it, would work for its
> > passage.
> > 
> > Second, I don't recall ever attacking the religious
> > views of anyone in the 
> > 24 years I myself have been a religious person. 
> > Perhaps you mean that I 
> > have publicly stated that Christ Church folks would
> > not support a public 
> > school bond for $29, much less $29 million, because
> > of their religious and 
> > social beliefs.  That's true.  I believe the honest
> > Kirker would tell you 
> > that as well and feel perfectly comfortable in
> > defending it.  How that's an 
> > attack is beyond me.
> > 
> > Third, as far as attacks on the press, there are two
> > things you should know. 
> >   One, I have made my living as a print journalist,
> > third generation -- I 
> > know journalism.  Second, and much more important, I
> > am able to separate my 
> > fondness for some journalists from disappointment at
> > their paper's coverage.
> > 
> > Believe me, Donovan, if I ever go on the attack,
> > there won't be any doubt 
> > whatsoever.  And for that reason, I choose not to.
> > 
> > keely
> > 
> > From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> > To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>,
> > thansen at moscow.com,  
> > vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Due Tribute
> > Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:49:27 -0700 (PDT)
> > 
> > Keely,
> > 
> > I find it hypocritical that you have the ability to
> > talk about respect when the FPC sat there in the
> > April
> > meeting and attacked the personal character of Phil
> > Roderick and the religious beliefs of another man
> > that
> > wrote a letter to the editor against the bond.
> > Phil's
> > character and the religious faith of someone writing
> > a
> > letter to the editor should not be challenged in a
> > public meeting because they raised questions about
> > the
> > bond. Not to mention the attacks made on the members
> > of the press.
> > 
> > Your entire meeting on that day has a planning
> > discussion on how to get the bond passed. That is
> > not
> > unbiased.
> > 
> > Take Care,
> > 
> > Donovan J Arnold
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> >  > Donovan, it may take you another 20 years to
> >  > understand decency and respect,
> >  > particularly that which you owe to veterans like
> > Mr.
> >  > Hansen.
> >  >
> >  > Knock it off.
> >  >
> >  > keely
> >  >
> >  > From: Donovan Arnold
> > <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> >  > To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>,
> >  > vision2020 at moscow.com
> >  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Due Tribute
> >  > Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:11:37 -0700 (PDT)
> >  >
> >  > WOW! How do you do it Mr. Hansen?
> >  >
> >  > What skills do I need to acquire to be like you
> > 20
> >  > years from now when I am your age?
> >  >
> >  > All this talent of yours and you WASTE it on a $7
> > an
> >  > hour job working for the University. Surely
> > somebody
> >  > out there has to find you as funny and talented
> > as
> >  > you
> >  > find yourself.
> >  >
> >  > Take Care,
> >  >
> >  > Donovan J Arnold
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > --- Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> >  >  > Greetings Visionaires -
> >  >  >
> >  >  > Sometimes postings on Vision 2020 deserve no
> > more
> >  >  > attention than the mumbles
> >  >  > in a back of a classroom.
> >  >  >
> >  >  > Then there are those you simply cannot
> > overlook
> >  > and
> >  >  > let escape without
> >  >  > paying due tribute to their author.
> >  >  >
> >  >  > So, to ensure proper tribute is paid to those
> >  >  > individuals that are so, so
> >  >  > deserving, I will present, on an irregular
> > basis,
> >  >  > the "Two Fries Shy of a
> >  >  > Happy Meal" Award.
> >  >  >
> >  >  > Make sure that your speakers are turned up
> > for:
> >  >  >
> >  >  > http://www.tomandrodna.com/The_Lighter_Side
> >  >  >
> >  >  > Take care, Moscow.
> >  >  >
> >  >  > Tom Hansen
> >  >  > Just Another Left Wing Intolerista Liberal
> >  > Elitista
> >  >  > Diversity-Cleansing
> >  >  > Wacko Nutjob Loose in the Palouse Doing What
> >  > Comes
> >  >  > Natural (and saving his
> >  >  > nickels and dimes for the Trinity
> > In"Fest"ation
> >  >  > 2005)
> >  >  >
> >  >  > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave
> > with
> >  > the
> >  >  > intention of arriving
> >  >  > safely in an attractive and well preserved
> > body,
> >  > but
> >  >  > rather to skid in
> >  >  > sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in
> > the
> >  >  > other, body thoroughly used
> >  >  > up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO.
> > What
> >  > a
> >  >  > ride!'"
> >  >  >
> >  >  >
> >  >  >
> >  >
> >
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