[Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?

David M. Budge dave at davebudge.com
Thu Jun 2 08:38:00 PDT 2005


I stand corrected.  Seems as the alternative spelling "bollox" is 
actually modern colloquial usage. 

So, if even perhaps offensive, it all reminds me of the phrase:

' "Balls" said the Queen.  If the Queen had balls she'd be the King!"

db

Saundra Lund wrote:

>Hi Dave,
>
>Well . . . harrumph!  It depends on your source . . . or the dictionary you
>use, I guess  :-)
>
>I learned the spelling from a UK friend.  However, after getting your email,
>I thought perhaps Helen doesn't know how to spell.  But, she does:
>" bollocks 
>.... 
> U.K. a taboo term meaning to make a mess or muddle of something ( taboo )"
>http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_561501748/definition.html
>
>Of course, I was rather . . . surprised that I had to click past a Language
>Advisory to get to the definition & spelling  :-)
>
>And, not to worry about spelling my name incorrectly . . . I'm tolerant & I
>knew who you were addressing  :-)))  Plus, the spelling you used is actually
>how my name *was* spelled by my parents for the first 10 years or so of my
>life.  Due to a clerical error, no name had ever been entered on my birth
>certificate, so I was Baby Girl Spence for a decade.  By the time they
>discovered that, they'd learned that Sandra is typically pronounced one way,
>and to get the pronunciation they'd been using, it needed to be either
>Sondra or Saundra.  So, Saundra I became  :-)  I lobbied hard for a complete
>change of name (Amber Elizabeth struck my fancy at that time), but I was
>overruled by my parents -- go figure  ;-)
>
>
>Saundra Lund
>Moscow, ID
>
>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
>nothing.
>Edmund Burke
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: David M. Budge [mailto:dave at davebudge.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, 02 June 2005 7:23 AM
>To: Saundra Lund
>Cc: 'Phil Nisbet'; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?
>
>OK Sandra, I'll correct you. The proper spelling is "bollox."
>
>db
>
>Saundra Lund wrote:
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>>Hi Mr. Nisbet,
>>
>>Well . . . I guess it's a safe guess that you don't work at the 
>>University of Idaho, which is Latah County's largest employer.  
>>Hopefully, if I bollocks this up, someone will correct me  :-)
>>
>>Without addressing coverage details (which, IMHO, again decreased for 
>>UI employees in the form of new & increased deductibles, increased 
>>co-payments, increased out of pocket limits, switching to MOB, etc), I 
>>can tell you that our family (employee, spouse, 1 child) will be paying 
>>less in premiums this upcoming fiscal year.
>>
>>Why?  Well, if I understand correctly, it's because our particular 
>>configuration (employee, spouse, 1 child) has been used in the past to
>>***subsidize*** the premiums of other groups.  Specifically, the spouse 
>>portion has subsidized employees with ***no (covered) spouse*** but 
>>with covered children.  [This information is available from 
>>http://www.hr.uidaho.edu/default.aspx?pid=80749; scroll down, click on 
>>PowerPoint Presentation of Changes under FY06 Program Change 
>>Highlights, then read the notes for Slide 16.]
>>
>>So, with respect to the UI, I would have to strongly disagree with your
>>statement:
>>"But there are one heck of a lot of single parents, people who do not 
>>have two people raising children or two paychecks to cover the costs 
>>who are just as deserving of assistance, but as singles are expected to 
>>shoulder the burden for those who are not single."
>>
>>To the contrary:  at the UI, the spouse premium has apparently been 
>>subsidizing the premium of single parents with children.  Is that fair?
>>
>>I don't think I'm missing your point, but sometimes things aren't as 
>>they seem, as I think I've just shown using the UI as an example.
>>
>>
>>Saundra Lund
>>Moscow, ID
>>
>>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to 
>>do nothing.
>>Edmund Burke
>>
>>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2005, Saundra Lund.
>>Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
>>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>>On Behalf Of Phil Nisbet
>>Sent: Thursday, 02 June 2005 3:13 AM
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?
>>
>>There was a spirited discussion on spreading benefits about for gays 
>>and lesbians and transgenders, etc.  Though it has dried up, I was 
>>wondering,
>>
>>Why is there a benefit for people simple because they happen to be 
>>sharing the same bedroom?
>>
>>Don't get it wrong, I benefited from it back while I was married and 
>>before I became a single dad, but now I am happily not married and 
>>intend to spend the rest of my life in happy bachleorhood.
>>
>>So I guess I am wondering why it is that simply because two people make 
>>a choice to sleep together and live together in some sort of bonded 
>>relationship, those of us who have been there and done that and got the 
>>Tshirt, but are not to particularly wanting to do it again any time 
>>soon, are expected to pay higher taxes and spring for higher bills for 
>>insurance and the rest, simply because somebody else is having a 
>>wonderful time of matrimonial bliss.
>>
>>As long as we as a society chose to favor couples with tax breaks and 
>>benefits, I do not see how all types of relationship are not granted 
>>special privileges equally.
>>
>>Those who suggest that marriage is one man and one woman and deserve 
>>benefits are doing so based on the premise that this is about kids, the 
>>having and raising of them being something that society needs to assist.
>>But there are one heck of a lot of single parents, people who do not 
>>have two people raising children or two paychecks to cover the costs 
>>who are just as deserving of assistance, but as singles are expected to 
>>shoulder the burden for those who are not single.  And of course, 
>>lesbian and gay couples can have households with kids as well.  Then 
>>you have childless couples, the Double Income No Kids (DINKs), who never
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>>So if taking care of children is the key, why not attach the benefit to 
>>the kids and not to the couples?  That means that DINKs do not get a 
>>benefit simply because they are sleeping together, but that struggling 
>>single parents see the same benefit as two parent households.
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