[Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?

[Donovan Arnold]

Phil,

It appears we agree and disagree on a few things.

First you ask, "Why is there a benefit for people
simple because they happen to be sharing the same
bedroom?"

The political answer to this is because married
couples with children vote, whereas singles do not.
Therefore politicians write the laws to give them free
crap, like single people's money.

There is also the business answer. It is cheaper to
give Mommy and Daddy benefits through collective
bargaining with a health insurance company than to
give them cash. Benefits are also enticements for
employment.

Next, there is the religious reason. Couples that pop
out babies like a broken spastic vending machines are
doing good for society and the church, and thus are
morally superior to everyone else.

Finally, there is the societal reason. We must provide
the best environment we can for children because they
are our future, and taking your money is the best way
to accomplish that goal.

"Those who suggest that marriage is one man and one
woman and deserve benefits are doing so based on the
premise that this is about kids," 

I do not think that this is the only premise. People
that have kids vote. That is why they get the goods.
If it was about children in general, 50% of those in
poverty in this country would not be children. 

If heterosexual couples get benefits for sharing a
life, why should homosexual couples not get the same
benefits as heterosexuals?

To me, this translates to less pay for the same work.
If a married man with kids gets his premium of $150 a
month paid by a company, but the gay guy only gets a
$50 premium paid because he is with a man, instead of
a woman, that is $100 less a month in compensation he
is getting because of sexual orientation that has
nothing to do with the job. In essence, they are
saying if you are gay, you get punished, if you are
heterosexual, you get rewarded. 


Bottom-line here is, do not give gay people one set of
rules, benefits, and compensation and straight people
another set of rules, benefits, and compensation.

Treating Gay people less is just the same as treating
women, Blacks, and Hispanics as less. The city of
Moscow needs to stop discrimination of the LGBT
community. 


Donovan J Arnold




here a benefit for people simple because
> they happen to be sharing 
> the same bedroom?
> 
> Don't get it wrong, I benefited from it back while I
> was married and before 
> I became a single dad, but now I am happily not
> married and intend to spend 
> the rest of my life in happy bachleorhood.
> 
> So I guess I am wondering why it is that simply
> because two people make a 
> choice to sleep together and live together in some
> sort of bonded 
> relationship, those of us who have been there and
> done that and got the 
> Tshirt, but are not to particularly wanting to do it
> again any time soon, 
> are expected to pay higher taxes and spring for
> higher bills for insurance 
> and the rest, simply because somebody else is having
> a wonderful time of 
> matrimonial bliss.
> 
> As long as we as a society chose to favor couples
> with tax breaks and 
> benefits, I do not see how all types of relationship
> are not granted special 
> privileges equally.
> 
> Those who suggest that marriage is one man and one
> woman and deserve 
> benefits are doing so based on the premise that this
> is about kids, the 
> having and raising of them being something that
> society needs to assist.  
> But there are one heck of a lot of single parents,
> people who do not have 
> two people raising children or two paychecks to
> cover the costs who are just 
> as deserving of assistance, but as singles are
> expected to shoulder the 
> burden for those who are not single.  And of course,
> lesbian and gay couples 
> can have households with kids as well.  Then you
> have childless couples, the 
> Double Income No Kids (DINKs), who never are going
> to have kids.
> 
> So if taking care of children is the key, why not
> attach the benefit to the 
> kids and not to the couples?  That means that DINKs
> do not get a benefit 
> simply because they are sleeping together, but that
> struggling single 
> parents see the same benefit as two parent
> households.
> 
>
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