[Vision2020] 07 05 05 Ny Times: United Church of Christ BacksSame-Sex Marriage

[donald toogood]

He does know its different he just does'nt want to talk about what's its
really about.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Pat Kraut"
  To: "vision2020"
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 07 05 05 Ny Times: United Church of Christ
  BacksSame-Sex Marriage
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:53:45 -0700

  >
  > You truly cannot see the difference...no wonder our kids don't know
  what
  > morality is. We are doomed!
  >
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Scott Dredge"
  > To: "donald toogood" ;
  > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:40 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 07 05 05 Ny Times: United Church of
  Christ
  > BacksSame-Sex Marriage
  >
  >
  > Maybe you didn't understand my comment. At one point
  > in this country not so long ago (around 1950), many
  > states outlawed interracial marriages...something like
  > 38 states banned them. Some had bans within their
  > state constitutions. The reason why I bring this up
  > is that it is a direct parallel to banning same sex
  > marriage.
  >
  > Roughly 60 years ago in this country, interracial
  > marriages were banned. A black man marrying a white
  > woman was illegal. A white man marrying a black woman
  > was illegal. You claim this isn't the same thing as a
  > man marrying a man or a woman marrying a woman. Why?
  > If at one point, there were laws against interracial
  > marriage and same sex marriage, what's the difference?
  > They were both considered illegal marriages.
  >
  > Married can mean between a man and a woman. However,
  > same sex couples in a civil union deserve the exact
  > same rights as married couples.
  >
  > -Scott
  >
  > --- donald toogood wrote:
  >
  > > Black men and white women or white women and black
  > > men marrying isnt' a
  > > man marrying a man or a woman marrying woman.It's
  > > different. How can you
  > > say it's like that? Whites marrying blacks was still
  > > marrying a different
  > > sex, not like they want to do now. It's not bashing
  > > anybody, it's just
  > > not calling getting together with the same sex being
  > > married. Married
  > > means between a man and a woman and that's all.
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Scott Dredge"
  > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
  > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 07 05 05 Ny Times:
  > > United Church of Christ
  > > Backs Same-Sex Marriage
  > > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:53:55 -0700 (PDT)
  > >
  > > >
  > > > Churches will adapt. It wasn't very long ago
  > > that
  > > > interracial marriages were banned. It's bad PR
  > > for
  > > > the churches to continuously bash homosexuals
  > > and it's
  > > > a losing battle.
  > > >
  > > > -Scott
  > > >
  > > > --- donald toogood wrote:
  > > >
  > > > > That headline says the church did it. But if
  > > you
  > > > > read on down it was just
  > > > > most of 800 delegates. The people in the
  > > churches
  > > > > didn't have any say in
  > > > > it. No wonder churches like this are losing
  > > their
  > > > > members. The big shots
  > > > > in the churches are making it so they don't
  > > stand
  > > > > for anything at all.
  > > > > They'll go ahead and do something they know is
  > > wrong
  > > > > just so a few people
  > > > > won't badmouth them. Well maybe it makes them
  > > feel
  > > > > better, but pretty
  > > > > soon they'll be preaching to empty churches.
  > > Just
  > > > > like it says in this
  > > > > article, some of the churches are probably
  > > gonna get
  > > > > out of that religion
  > > > > if they let this gay marrying thing go.
  > > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > >
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