[Vision2020] RE:The Key to Helping Downtown Moscow Thrive

[Carl Westberg]

A couple of months or so ago, Donovan welcomed a new poster to V2020 with 
the notation that the listserve is dominated by about 10-12 people.  What he 
didn't mention was that 6 of them are Donovan.                               
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                                             
              Carl Westberg Jr.

>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: "B. J. Swanson" <bjswan at moscow.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RE:The Key to Helping Downtown Moscow Thrive
>Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
>
>BJ,
>
>You are right, I do not know crap about economics, or
>business, or anything of that nature. But I do
>understand that a college in a downtown attracts
>people to the area and can generate revenue for the
>downtown businesses. I do not need a degree, just two
>eyes to see it happen.
>
>"I would like to see the city concentrate on creating
>Living wage jobs with benefits and broadening the
>tax base instead of promoting tax exempt special
>interests."
>
>It does not matter where you put NSA, it will be tax
>exempt. So I think your logic falls flat. Nor is
>allowing a college to exist promoting it. It is just
>being courteous and following the first amendment.
>
>BJ, I think it was the Board of Directors at Gritman
>and the UI administration that has done the single
>most harm to this city.
>
>Their decision on changing the health insurance policy
>(do not confuse this with the requirement of health
>insurance to attend) for students has sent over
>$4,000,000 of student money outside the city and
>county. In fact, it sent it to another state. It also
>make the costs of attendance at UI jump 25% for some
>students with no additional financial aid to cover the
>increased costs.
>
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
>
>--- "B. J. Swanson" <bjswan at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, Donovan, I am a member of the LEDC as well as
> > the Idaho Economic
> > Advisory Council and many other economic development
> > groups.  And your
> > economic credentials are?
> >
> > No, I am not suggesting that we get rid of the U-I;
> > but allowing a new tax-
> > exempt school zone that will depend on other
> > taxpayers to subsidize
> > creates a number of problems.  Moscow already has an
> > extremely high
> > property tax rate compared to other cities of
> > similar size because our
> > largest economic base is tax exempt.  I would like
> > to see the city
> > concentrate on creating Living wage jobs with
> > benefits and broadening the
> > tax base instead of promoting tax exempt special
> > interests.
> >
> > Economic development is a favorite subject of mine,
> > but, alas, I know how
> > just the word "Economics" makes eyes glaze over.  I
> > would be glad to
> > debate this further off-line.
> >
> > B. J. Swanson
> >
> > -----------------------
> >
> > BJ Swanson,
> >
> > You wrote, "NSA claims to be tax-exempt, so who will
> > pay the taxes to support City services, etc?  Please
> > explain your tax revenue theory."
> >
> > Are you not suppose to be on the Latah County
> > Economic
> > Development Council?
> >
> > Do you suggest that we get rid of UI because it does
> > not pay property taxes? Do you not see how a college
> > generates revenue through property taxes?
> >
> > The same concept would work for a college downtown,
> > but on smaller scale.
> >
> > Mr. Man, or whoever it is, might have meant
> > something
> > different. However, I think it is obvious how a
> > college generates revenue for the city and state,
> > and
> > local businesses by bringing people to the area.
> >
> > Donovan J Arnold
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "B. J. Swanson" <bjswan at moscow.com> wrote:
> >
> > > New man,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You said, "Doesn't a college bring in more tax
> > > revenue than empty shops?"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > NSA claims to be tax-exempt, so who will pay the
> > > taxes to support City
> > > services, etc?  Please explain your tax revenue
> > > theory.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > B. J. Swanson
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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