[Vision2020] Gritman contract with QHR,
Which bankrupts hospitals across the nation.
Donovan Arnold
donovanarnold at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 25 11:38:32 PST 2005
I forgot to mention in my previous post, as BJ Swanson pointed out. The
Board of Directors at Gritman uses Quorum Health Resources LLC as their
management.
This company has bankrupt many small hospitals across the nation because of
fraud and corruption and is and has been sued repeatedly as a result since
1998 starting with the Federal Government under Clinton. It doesn't surprise
me in the least that the Board of Directors would be using this company.
Read all about this company for yourself and tell me you want them managing
your mother's health care:
Some of this may require a bit of reading.
http://nwanews.com/story.php?paper=adg§ion=Business%20Matters&storyid=107247
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=105&STORY=/www/story/02-03-1999/0000862028
http://www.phillipsandcohen.com/CM/NewsSettlements/PressReleasesandSettlements202.asp
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=1604243308&tid=tri&sid=1604243308&mid=723
http://www.nwanews.com/story_print.php?paper=adg&Business%20Matters=section&storyid=107247
http://www.santapaulatimes.com/news/archivestory.php/aid/8268/SPMH:_Board_disputes_Quorum__fee_claim,_considers_lawsuit.html
http://www.watonga.com/city/council.htm
Good Day,
Donovan J Arnold
>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>To: bjswan at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gritman's Community Service
>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:06:07 -0800
>
>B.J. Swanson and visioneers,
>
>You write well. However, I don't think you are being honest with the
>community. Let us shine some light on your points.
>
>"The Board of Directors are all volunteers from the community and receive
>no pay."--BJ S.
>
>That is because they make their money off making decisions that result in
>lining their own pockets. Let us take the case of a previous Board of
>Directors Chair. He used his position at UI to require all UI students
>purchase health insurance. This saved Gritman millions of dollars in having
>to pay the indigent fund. After leaving as Chair of Board of Directors he
>now works one day a week as the Director of Student Health, Benefits, and
>Welfare at UI for $90,000 a year and he only works ONE day a week,
>Wednesday, and I don't think he even shows up until after 9 AM. That is a
>cushy job. That is why he doesn't need the token pay of the position. He
>made millions for UI and saved millions for Gritman, at the expense of UI
>Students, many of which cannot afford the crappy insurance, that costs more
>and cut out vision and dental.
>
>"Gritman is non-profit"-BJS
>
>Maybe not for the hospital and community but it sure is for some of the
>board of directors and some others that work there. At $20 for a band-aid,
>money has got to going some where because is not going to the nurses or the
>janitors.
>
>
>"Gritman is not a tax supported hospital." BJS
>
>If you believe that I got a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell you.
>Humm, as I seem to recall, the taxpayers donated an entire street to
>Gritman and paid money to build on an entirely new wing to the hospital for
>private doctors to make private profits. Not to mention providing all those
>utilities. Now just because it doesn't show as a LINE ITEM on a bill
>doesn't mean we are not paying for it. I think to suggest that the
>taxpayers are not spending millions of their hard earned dollars on Gritman
>really is dishonest and akin of the type of behavior and attitude that has
>been coming out of the Board of Directors for the last few years. Taxpayers
>do support Gritman and you should thank them for it rather than telling
>them they don't and insulting them. Its operations are also supported by
>taxpayers because the hospital is tax exempt and taxpayers have to pay
>higher property taxes as a result.
>
>" Last year, Gritman expensed over $11 million in charity care in this
>community."--BJS
>
>Correction, Gritman wrote-off on their taxes $11 million in charity care to
>the community. Let us not get carried away. And at $20 for a band aid, how
>much care was that? How much did Gritman collect and save from not having
>to pay for indigent care by forcing UI students to have expensive health
>insurance? How much has Gritman made from other tax supported entities? How
>much of that charity was paid as a mandate by local, state, and federal
>law? And where was most of the money directed? The answers to those
>question began to paint a much different picture.
>
>"Gritman will pay it's fair share of a BID assessment if it is
>approved."BJS
>
>You mean Gritman won't break the law? Thanks for that agreement.
>
>
>"I challenge you to think of Moscow without Gritman and tell me if you
>would be better off." BJS
>
>Oh please! Are you suggesting that Moscow Residents are to ignorant to
>figure out how to staff a hospital if it were not for BJ Swanson and the
>Board of Directors? That really is disturbing and insulting you people
>think that about yourselves. If Gritman was not there, we would have a
>better hospital like we did before it was taken over by a tax dodging and
>profiteering form of management. We would not have people lining up to be
>on the board of directors to make money off the position if it were not for
>Gritman. We would not have as high of property taxes because the private
>doctors making private profits would be paying taxing rather than being
>supported by them if it were not for Gritman. And lastly, I would not be
>forced to buy inadequate health insurance from UI at outrageous prices. The
>Board of Directors cost me an extra $500 a year and my former quality
>health insurance I had before. I think people in Moscow would have to
>filled with a great deal of incompetence not to be better off with a
>different hospital.
>
>Finally, it ought to tell people in Moscow something when a former members
>of the Board of Directors at Gritman would rather be helicoptered to
>Lewiston for treatment rather than be treated at Gritman. Maybe they know
>something.
>
>I know that Gritman has good workers and bad workers, just like every place
>else. However, I think it gets worse when you have greedy profit driven
>management. Greed should never be allowed to rear its ugly head in a place
>that is suppose to provide critical quality care. The Gritman Board of
>Directors, over the last several years, has placed the welfare of the
>community second to huge profits.
>
>Good Day,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>Victim of Gritman
>
>"How do you tell when a politician is lying? Their lips are moving"
>
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>>From: "B. J. Swanson" <bjswan at moscow.com>
>>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gritman's Community Service
>>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:12:29 -0800
>>
>>
>>Donovan & Visionaries,
>>
>>The cost of healthcare is certainly a concern for everyone. Instead of a
>>Social Security crisis, the nation probably has a worse healthcare crisis.
>>It's not just Moscow.
>>
>>You may think Gritman is a huge for-profit, corporate hospital, but it is
>>not. Gritman is non-profit. It is owned by the community. The Board of
>>Directors are all volunteers from the community and receive no pay. We do
>>contract with Quorum Health Resources for management of Gritman. Jeff
>>Martin is the only Quorum employee at Gritman. If you have ever looked at
>>a
>>Medicare Cost Report or one of the 300+ contracts Gritman maintains, you
>>would clearly see that to stay in business and provide healthcare that the
>>community expects, we contract with a company that specializes in hospital
>>management. It's an extremely complicated and costly industry, but it
>>also
>>saves lives.
>>
>>Gritman does way more than provide hot chocolate, coffee, etc. to the
>>community. Last year, Gritman expensed over $11 million in charity care
>>in
>>this community. We care for everyone regardless of their ability to pay.
>>
>>Gritman is also the largest private employer with nearly 400 employees.
>>
>>The direct healthcare areas of Gritman are tax exempt. Properties that
>>are
>>leased or not directly related to healthcare are taxed. Gritman will pay
>>it's fair share of a BID assessment if it is approved.
>>
>>You will find that many hospitals in Idaho started out like Gritman; owned
>>and supported by the community. Most have gotten into trouble, sold
>>themselves to for-profit companies or gave themselves to the Counties and
>>became taxing districts. Pullman Regional Hospital is funded by a taxing
>>district. The residents of Pullman are taxed to support their hospital.
>>Gritman is not a tax supported hospital. You will find no line item on
>>your
>>tax bill to support Gritman. It is tax exempt, but you do not pay taxes
>>to
>>keep it running either. Most communities that now have tax supported
>>hospitals would much prefer an arrangement like Gritman.
>>
>>I challenge you to think of Moscow without Gritman and tell me if you
>>would
>>be better off.
>>
>>B. J. Swanson
>>Chairman of the Board
>>Gritman Medical Center
>>
>>----------------------------------
>>
>>
>>------ Forwarded Message
>>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:46:57 -0800
>>To: edc at moscow.com, CJs at Turbonet.com, editor at lataheagle.com,
>>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Gritman's Community Service
>>
>>
>> "Gritman provided hot chocolate, coffee, and cookies for participants of
>>the
>>Holiday Parade. Gritman also provides hot dogs and drinks for the
>>Homecoming Parade."
>>
>>Don't forget the lolly pop and a free sticker if you don't cry during a
>>hysterectomy.
>>
>>Really though, it is so nice for UI students to pay an extra $500 a
>>semester
>>in addition to other fees so they can get free coffee and cookies at
>>downtown events. What a deal! And we wonder why students are leaving UI by
>>the hundreds. The logic just doesn't follow :P
>>
>>Donovan J Arnold
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: Barbara Richardson Crouch <edc at moscow.com>
>> >To: <CJs at Turbonet.com>, <editor at lataheagle.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NSA
>> >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:55:11 GMT
>> >
>> >Phil,
>> >
>> >Gritman is a not-for-profit corporation. The hospital is controlled and
>> >operated by a board of directors comprised of community members.
>>Gritman
>> >provides millions of dollars per year in unreimbursed care to our local
>> >residents.
>> >
>> >Gritman provides various services and supports downtown events. Gritman
>> >provided hot chocolate, coffee, and cookies for participants of the
>> >Holiday Parade. Gritman also provides hot dogs and drinks for the
>> >Homecoming Parade. Plus Gritman supports finacially many, many events
>> >throughout the community.
>> >
>> >Barbara Crouch
>> >
>> >---------------------------------
>> >
>> > > Kai - If NSA and Grittman (since Grittman is FOR PROFIT) were
>>paying
>> > > property taxes there would not need to be a BID.
>> > >
>> > > Phil
>> > >
>> > > -------Original Message-------
>> > >
>> > > From: Kai Eiselein
>> > > Date: 02/24/05 09:06:41
>> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > > Subject: [Vision2020] NSA
>> > >
>> > > Rose, you may want to take a closer look at the BID. I am rather
>> >ambivile> nt
>> > > about it, but I did write an article in the December 9 issue of the
>> >Latah>
>> > > Eagle about the process.
>> > > According to the documents I have, a tax exempt entity is not exempt
>> >from>
>> > > the a BID levy. That would include New St. Andrews College and
>>Gritman
>> >to>
>> > > name a couple. The BID in Twin Falls includes the administrative
>>office
>> >o> f
>> > > the school district, as I recall, and they are subject to the BID
>>levy
>> >as>
>> > > well.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Kai T. Eiselein
>> > > Editor
>> > > Latah Eagle
>> > > 521 S. Jackson St.
>> > > Moscow, ID 83843
>> > > (208) 882-0666 Fax (208) 882-0130
>> > > editor at lataheagle.com
>> > >
>>
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