[Vision2020] RE: wake up call

[LuJane Nisse publisher]

I thought it was Developmentally Delayed.
All this political correct stuff makes my head spin. You need a degree in
PCness.

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Tami Stinebaugh
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:43 PM
To: Donovan Arnold
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RE: wake up call


Donovan,

FWIW, If I remember correctly, my last special ed course corrected our use
of the term "mentally retarded" and told us it was no longer politically
correct.  We were told the politically correct term is now "cognitively
impaired".  I have no idea if it has been, or will be changed in the DSM.

Tami Stinebaugh

----- Original Message -----
From: Donovan Arnold <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
Date: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:53 pm
Subject: [Vision2020] RE: wake up call

> Phil,
>
> The word  "Retarded" is a medical diagnoses.  Just as "autism",
> "mildly
> retarded", "Schizophrenic"  and "emotionally disturbed" are
> defined medical
> terms.  Mentally handicapped is not a medical term. Nor is it
> illegal to
> give alcohol to someone that is medically "handicapped".   If you
> are
> offended by the medical term then I suggest you write the
> publishers of the
> DSMV-IV and ask them and the entire scientific community to change
> that word
> to something you feel comfortable with. Until then, I will use the
> words as
> defined by the DSMV-IV so what we are not using arbitrary
> definitions. I am
> not using the word in an derogatory way. I don't go around calling
> people
> retards as you seem to be implying. I call people by their names.
> I am using
> it in the correct fashion and for the specific reason that
> definition was
> created. What would be prejudiced is if I charged people with a
> diagnoses of
> "mentally retarded" with the same responsibilities as someone who
> is not. It
> is our moral duty to speak up for those that don't know they are
> being taken
> advantage of. It is you that takes their money and allows them to
> fall
> victim to discrimination and addiction. You know better, they don't.
>
> "It is against the law to ask an individual if they are an
> alcoholic, what
> their medical diagnosis is or is not and or "written permission
> from their
> guardian" before I serve them. Privacy is a constitutional right."
>
> It is also against the law to knowingly serve an alcoholic,
> someone who is
> intoxicated, or who is not their own legal guardian. You do this
> all the
> time. You also have the right to refuse service to anyone for any
> reason.
> Rather than doing what is morally and ethically correct, you
> choose to do
> what results in making you wealthier and play ignorant.
>
> "so is the state, city and county.
> >  Let me help you:
> >Alcohol Beverage Control
> >Health Department
> >Health and Welfare
> >Adult Protection Services
> >Moscow PD
> >There are no laws of any of their books."
>
> Sorry, they sell within the law.
>
> "Please bring "adult protection services" in tonight just to prove
> to
> yourself and whoever else you are talking to that apparently you
> are a bit
> over educated? NOT!"
>
> Well, for one smarty pants, I would not announce the time and date
> I would
> go in there. Considering that it would be easy to obey the law at
> that time.
> Second, that is not the way adult protection services works.
> However, if you
> are admitting to still serving individuals illegal, I will contact
> adult
> protection services. They well get to the issue based on their
> priorities.
> "Let me inform you that all of the above mentioned are happy that
> we offer a
> place for the disabled to get together and try to blend in,
> inclusion, with
> others. Humanitarian? You bet!"
>
> Gee great, a place where people can get together and abuse their
> minds and
> bodies with drugs. That is really being a humanitarian. And you
> give them
> free food, drink, and provide and elevator or ramp too right???
> No, ok, so
> what you are really doing is taking their money, and not even
> providing a
> way for many people who are disabled a comfortable and safe way in
> and out
> or a place to sit. They come for one reason, they are addicted to
> the drugs
> you serve them.
>
> This Monday is Presidents Day. I will make sure that by then I
> have
> contacted Adult Protection Services or someone better suited to do
> it and
> that proper authorities are contacted regarding the guardianship
> of the
> people you are serving. Perhaps it is legal to serve someone who
> is
> diagnosed as being "mentally retarded" can be served alcohol until
> they pass
> out every night using their social security check. However, I
> highly doubt
> this. It is my guess that it is just so prevalent in bars, or
> difficult to
> prove.
>
> I am not saying that it is wrong to allow a person with a
> disability to have
> a cold brew with his buddies and sing karaoke for the evening. But
> this not
> the case. This is the case of excessive and dangerously high
> alcohol
> consumption two six times a week.
>
> Phil, you know this is wrong and are taking advantage of your
> neighbor any
> way you try to justify it.
>
> This is my last attempt to convince you to do what is right. I
> will simple
> give it to others to deal with. No sense in arguing about it any
> further. It
> is your decision to obey the law or not, and legal authorities to
> enforcement it. All I can do is appeal to your humanity and bring
> it to
> everyone's attention. Which is what I have done. I will give you
> the last
> word. But it doesn't change what you are doing to other people.
> You serve a
> very dangerous drug and its distribution should be taken very
> seriously.
> This includes saying NO to people that are not capable of making
> that call
> on their own.
>
> Good Day,
>
> Donovan J Arnold
>
>
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