[Vision2020] For John D on Iraq

[Phil Nisbet]

John

1.	Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979-2003): 300 000
o	Human Rights Watch: "twenty-five years of Ba`th Party rule ... murdered or 
'disappeared' some quarter of a million Iraqis" 
[http://www.hrw.org/wr2k4/3.htm]
o	8/9 Dec. 2003 AP: Total murders
„X	New survey estimates 61,000 residents of Baghdad executed by Saddam.
„X	US Government estimates a total of 300,000 murders
„X	180,000 Kurds k. in Anfal
„X	60,000 Shiites in 1991
„X	50,000 misc. others executed
„X	"Human rights officials" est.: 500,000
„X	Iraqi politicians: over a million
o	[These don't include the million or so dead in the Iran-Iraq War.]
2.	Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): 300 000
o	In Iraq:
„X	1987 War Annual: 300,000 (1983-87)
„X	Washington Post, 6 June 93: 70-120,000 (1987-89)
„X	David McDowall, A Modern History of the Kurds (1996): 150-200,000 (Anfal 
operations, 1988)
„X	23 May 1999 Denver Rocky Mtn News: 280,000 (1961-1999), incl. 180,000 
between 1976 and 1988, and 10,000 in 1991.
„X	HRW: Chemical attack on Halabja, 1988: 4,000 to 7000 civ. killed. 3,200 
names collected. [http://hrw.org/reports/1993/iraqanfal/ANFAL3.htm]
„X	Ploughshares 2000
„X	Total 1961-2000: >100,000
„X	Fighting among rival Kurds since 1994: 5,000 k
„X	Anfal operations
1.	US State Dept.: 70-150,000
2.	Human Rights Watch: 50-100,000
„X	B&J:
„X	1974-75: 3,000
„X	1976-95: 60,000
„X	TOTAL: 63,000
„X	857 cartons of detailed files kept by the Iraqi secret police describing 
genocide against the Kurds emerged in 1991-92.
„X	Time 1 June 1992: 200,000 to 300,000 killed (late 80s)
„X	AP 7 Dec. 1991: 200,000 k (1986-1991)
„X	Chicago Tribune 26 May 1992: 200,000 to 300,000 (1988-91)


That should give you a range of the numbers for Saddam.  If you include his 
attack on Iran and then his attack on Kumait, he has well over a million 
deaths on his record.

Lumping Kim Il Jung and his father and adding in deaths from the Korean War 
is a little much, but yes, we should eventually see him tried for what he 
himself has done.

As for Sudan, yes, I have already suggested that we need to take action 
there.  Its less folks than died in Iraq under Saddam, but it has immediacy.

I would have been much happier had Bush made that case and also called his 
father's actions in keeping Saddam in power into question.

Phil Nisbet

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