[Vision2020] Foot In Mouth Disease

Tue Dec 6 14:35:56 PST 2005

Mr Mattinson,

I have lived in Moscow since 1975 and plan on retiring here. My wife's and my oasis from the storm is near the playfield site on Borah. We have been working hard to make it right for our retirement and still have much work to do. We do not desire to retire next to a load speaker squalling 22 weekends a year (as reported at public meeting). Where would our quiet summer weekends be then? 

As presented by the Moscow athletic director at a public meeting, my information is correct. Thus the yelling!

I am on written record with both the Daily news and letters to the Council and Mayor in support of the alternative playfield Plans for the property. The original plan as displayed by the city has not yet been denounced by the city government and I do not give much trust to governments. I will howl until I see an official document form the Council that describes a playfield that is similar to the one in the alternative plans. 

JimR 

-----Original Message-----
From: D. Scott Mattinson [mailto:dmatt at mail.wsu.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:17 PM
To: Reynolds, James
Subject: Fwd: RE: [Vision2020] Foot In Mouth Disease

Mr. Reynolds,

I guess you live in Moscow?

Anyway.  I think you may have some info. wrong.

The talk of adults playing at the fields is false.  Not on the list..  Kids
age 5-18 at this time.

Big tournaments is rumor.  False information from one Impact study done by
the City.  Only two tournaments were held last summer in Moscow for youth.
One small soccer one, and one bigger Babe Ruth.  Both were not really
noticed by the public.  The loud tournaments are usually adults happen down
at Wicks or near the UI Sub.  

The idea of loud crowds is far overblown.  Vandal crowds, this is not...
There is no one who has said that would happen.  It's blown out of proportion.

If you went to the work shop discussion we heard no loud big tournaments
votes.  Also, the speaker system is definetly not a for sure.  The lights,
yes..  It would happen.

The money is a problem?  When did developement in Moscow worry about that?
Firestation, new, yes... Paying on it, yes.  More will come.  The ice rink
and firestation near the fairgrounds is right near my house.  Noise?  Some,
not bad at all.  Used to have the heli-pad near there too. Still not bad.

I guess you may want to get all your points correct before you yell?

Personally, if we don't provide better play fields for our youth in Moscow,
there will be more trouble in the future given all the growth? Check out the
CDA, Post Falls, and Spokane news reports of the crime?? 

So far I think the proposal has been free?  The land was cheap, the design
to date, free.  The water will be a problem.  The size could be scaled down
some.  If the ball fields don't get built there, you know you will have
houses there, or maybe a mall?  Our Moscow zoning laws are pretty messed up
you know?

Overall it should happen.

Scott

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>"Reynolds, James" <jreynold at vetmed.wsu.edu> wrote:  Subject: RE:
[Vision2020] Foot In Mouth Disease
>Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:29:29 -0800
>From: "Reynolds, James" <jreynold at vetmed.wsu.edu>
>To: "Ben Twigg" <bentwigg at turbonet.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
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>I can understand that the Mayor might get tired of hearing the same thing
from so many different voices but I cannot understand his dismissing it out
of hand. The reason he has heard it so much is that it is a great concern to
many community members. There is no comparison in Moscow to what is being
proposed. There is a big difference between the swimming pool and a PA
system with over-excited announcers and a crowd of 300 cheering or booing.
Visit the Kibbie dome during a basketball game then you will see what we
neighborhood folks are worried about. Organized sports tournaments are not
at all like a swimming pool.
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>This whole project has the looks of a Kevin Kostner (sp) movie. We shell
out 2.9 million dollars for a playfield and hope they will come. Where are
they playing now that they are going to be so willing to come here to play
baseball? We could contract out leveling, putting in an irrigation system,
and seeding the fields a whole lot cheaper than that and such created fields
would serve the children just as well. Where is this huge sum of money that
is leaving our pockets going? It seems to me that it may be going to sooth
the disappointment a few over-the-hill ball players had of loosing their bid
for the big leagues. The kids will actually get more out of and enjoy more a
pick-up game with friends than having to undergo the brutal expectations of
vicariously living parents.
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>You don't get my vote for this ill-thought plan of yours. It doesn't seem
as if you are looking for votes though, you just want to pick my pocket and
ruin my neighborhood so you can sit on that cooler and remember when you
were so good. Darn right I am touchy about this! 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Ben Twigg
>Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:44 AM
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Foot In Mouth Disease
>
>J Ford and Other Visionaries,
>
>Mayor Comstock's comment came in the context of suggesting that some of the
>concerns raised by neighbors of the proposed playfields site have been
>legitimate, while others have not. As someone who supports the project but
>has expressed a desire to work toward compromise, I fully agree. Don't
>forget that, as a neighbor of the pool and Mountain View Park, Mayor
>Comstock can (and did) attest to the fact that the sound of kids having fun
>is actually a good thing! I thought Councilman Jon Kimberling hit the nail
>on the head when he stated--I am paraphrasing--that this is about our kids,
>a cause worth sacrificing for. (I believe Mr. Kimberling's comment was
>specifically in reference to irrigation issues, but this principle reflects
>my thoughts on the entire project proposal.) 
>
>Ben Twigg
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D. Scott Mattinson
Associate in Research
Dept. of Horticulture/LA
Washington State University
Pullman WA. 99164-6414