[Vision2020] Correction (plus a fresh, if pointless, rant)
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 5 21:52:07 PDT 2005
"Sorry. I've been possessed again by the spirit of
Foghorn Leghorn. It happens all the time."--Joan Opyr
I hear Foghorn Leghorn is now a Senator from
Tennessee. Guess where I get my news from nowadays?
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart is not true and
accurate news, but I know it is not real, unlike the
viewers of FOX, CNN and CBS that think their news is
true and accurate.
Donovan J Arnold
--- Joan Opyr <joanopyr at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Just noticed that I misspelled Galatians in the post
> below. Before
> Heirloom or Studly hop on me for my glaring
> ignorance, that was a typo,
> son. A typo. Keep your eye on the ball, son. Eye
> on the ball. Eye.
> Ball. Eyeball. That's a joke, son. A funny. A
> ha-ha. Get it?
>
> Sorry. I've been possessed again by the spirit of
> Foghorn Leghorn.
> It happens all the time.
>
> Posting to you from Portland, Oregon, I am,
>
> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> www.auntie-establishment.com
>
> PS: I'm enjoying Portland, though I have to admit
> that, in my opinion,
> there are far too many men here wearing
> brightly-colored Ikea rubber
> clogs. I have a thing against men in clogs. It's
> not rational; it's
> not reasonable; it's none of my business. I just
> think they look
> dorky. Shoes with laces, boys, shoes with laces!
> Get 'em on, damn it!
> Get 'em on!
>
> On Aug 4, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Joan Opyr wrote:
>
> > Nick writes:
> >
> > "This column has appeared in the on-line magazine
> New West and will
> > appear in the Sandpoint Reader very soon. My
> interaction with Pastor
> > Lillback has been a model of civil interchange.
> Perhaps the good
> > pastor can teach Pastor Wilson a few manners
> during his stay in
> > Moscow. Since the eloquent dressing down that he
> received from an
> > anonymous Christian, I've noticed that Wilson has
> reduced his name
> > calling dramatically. (I'm now just an enemy
> rather than a banshee.)
> > But he has a long way to go to meet the challenge
> of his kind
> > Christian critic."
> >
> > I'm pleased to report that Nick has become a
> regular contributor to
> > New West's Northern Idaho node. He's written a
> review and analysis of
> > Michael Hayes' documentary "My Town," and his
> latest piece is a model
> > of truly appropriate (and constructive)
> theological discourse. As New
> > West's Northern Idaho Editor, I am delighted to
> have him on board. He
> > has greatly enriched the site with his knowledge
> and carefully
> > reasoned arguments.
> >
> > About models of civil exchange -- on my drive to
> Portland yesterday, I
> > happened to catch a Pastor Rogers preaching on the
> lower end of the FM
> > dial. His sermon was taken from Paul, 11
> Corinthians and Galations.
> > A few things he had to say interested me greatly
> -- and, being a
> > closet fan of Baptist preaching style, I really
> couldn't help
> > listening. Pastor Rogers is a master of the form.
> Every sentence
> > ends with an exclamatory "ah," as in "Jesus-ah!"
> Rogers preached
> > about the "real Jesus" and a "false Jesus,"
> declaring that Paul in II
> > Corinthians warned us of a false Jesus to be found
> in false gospels
> > and false ministers.
> >
> > (For some reason, Rogers specifically castigated
> the Jehovah's
> > Witnesses and the Mormons as worshipping a false
> Jesus. I can see why
> > a Baptist (or proto-Baptist) preacher might
> disapprove of the Mormons
> > -- Southern Baptists, at least, consider the
> Mormons polytheists.
> > This has to do with that telestial versus
> celestial kingdom business.
> > Also, The Book of Mormon, "another testament of
> Jesus Christ," is an
> > insurmountable problem for the Baptists. It
> freaks them out like
> > nothing else short of Wicca, Catholicism, and
> lesbians wearing jeans,
> > flannel, and Danner steel-toed workboots. Gay
> men, on the other hand,
> > are A-okay with most Southern Baptist women:
> someone has to decorate
> > their homes and tease their hair.
> >
> > I must admit that I am puzzled as to why would
> Rogers slam the
> > Jehovah's Witnesses. My understanding is that the
> JWs are a sort of
> > primitive Primitive Baptists -- very strict, very
> literalist, not a
> > lot of fun at surprise birthday parties. If
> anyone can enlighten me
> > about this, please do so offlist. Keely? Scott?)
> >
> > Okay, where was I? Ah yes, Pastor Rogers and II
> Corinthians. He
> > quoted Verse 4: Am I therefore the enemy because I
> tell you the truth?
> > There has been a lot of talk coming from Christ
> Church and the Christ
> > Church-affliated blogs lately about Doug Wilson's
> "enemies" and the
> > "battle to come." Doug launched an astonishing
> attack on the members
> > of his own congregation (http://dougwils.com) last
> week that beat all
> > I have ever seen. He accused members of the
> church of being traitors
> > and turn-coats, weaklings and cowards. He
> castigated them for not
> > supporting him in his battles; for daring to have
> opinions and ideas
> > of their own; and for not being what Rose would
> call "lock-step
> > toadies" to his particular (and frequently
> peculiar) interpretation of
> > the Bible. He talked about enemies existing both
> within and without
> > the church, but his focus was on those within.
> >
> > "Am I therefore your enemy because I tell you the
> truth?"
> >
> > I recently re-read "Labour of Love" (which is
> available on Tom
> > Hansen's website,
> http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse) and was
> > struck by the difference in tone between its
> gentle but firm Christian
> > remonstrance and Doug's flailing about, his
> girding up his loins for
> > battle, his turning up rocks, searching behind
> trees, and looking
> > under the bed for heathen enemy boogeymen. I
> doubt Pastor Rogers and
> > I would enjoy one another's company. He's
> anti-choice; he's anti-gay;
> > and he probably has hair taller than the Empire
> State Building, with
> > Fay Wray and King Kong shellacked to the side, but
> yesterday he said,
> > "When looking for the devil, fail not to look in
> the pulpit."
> >
> > Doug is welcome to attack me. So, too, are his
> minions -- my dear
> > blogstalkers, who give Brother Carl and I a good
> fifteen minutes of
> > free radio material every Sunday -- but when a
> shepherd begins to
> > assault his flock, I begin to worry. I begin to
> worry a lot. I fear
> > for those who cannot escape the onslaught for
> whatever reason, social,
> > spiritual, or financial. Power corrupts, and
> absolute power corrupts
> > absolutely. Doug recently announced that his son,
> Nathan, was his
> > best and wisest advisor. Nathan is a foolish and
> sheltered 26
> > year-old. He edits Doug's magazine, Credenda
> Agenda, a nightmare
> > publication of hateful bigotry, willful ignorance,
> and distasteful,
> > snotty, immature arrogance. He acquired a few
> years of nearly-real
> > life experience at the margins of the wider world
> by attending a
> > couple of small, sheltered liberal arts colleges,
> but he came home and
> > entered his father's employ. On the whole, he
> knows about as much of
> > the world as a novice in a nunnery. Nate's father
> is his be-all,
> > end-all, his boss and his minister, his teacher
> and his guide, and yet
> > Nate is now the man to whom Doug turns for his
> best
=== message truncated ===>
_____________________________________________________
> List services made available by First Step
> Internet,
> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
>
> http://www.fsr.net
>
> mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
>
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>
____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
More information about the Vision2020
mailing list