[Vision2020] Correction (plus a fresh, if pointless, rant)
Joan Opyr
joanopyr at earthlink.net
Thu Aug 4 14:40:16 PDT 2005
Just noticed that I misspelled Galatians in the post below. Before
Heirloom or Studly hop on me for my glaring ignorance, that was a typo,
son. A typo. Keep your eye on the ball, son. Eye on the ball. Eye.
Ball. Eyeball. That's a joke, son. A funny. A ha-ha. Get it?
Sorry. I've been possessed again by the spirit of Foghorn Leghorn.
It happens all the time.
Posting to you from Portland, Oregon, I am,
Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
www.auntie-establishment.com
PS: I'm enjoying Portland, though I have to admit that, in my opinion,
there are far too many men here wearing brightly-colored Ikea rubber
clogs. I have a thing against men in clogs. It's not rational; it's
not reasonable; it's none of my business. I just think they look
dorky. Shoes with laces, boys, shoes with laces! Get 'em on, damn it!
Get 'em on!
On Aug 4, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Joan Opyr wrote:
> Nick writes:
>
> "This column has appeared in the on-line magazine New West and will
> appear in the Sandpoint Reader very soon. My interaction with Pastor
> Lillback has been a model of civil interchange. Perhaps the good
> pastor can teach Pastor Wilson a few manners during his stay in
> Moscow. Since the eloquent dressing down that he received from an
> anonymous Christian, I've noticed that Wilson has reduced his name
> calling dramatically. (I'm now just an enemy rather than a banshee.)
> But he has a long way to go to meet the challenge of his kind
> Christian critic."
>
> I'm pleased to report that Nick has become a regular contributor to
> New West's Northern Idaho node. He's written a review and analysis of
> Michael Hayes' documentary "My Town," and his latest piece is a model
> of truly appropriate (and constructive) theological discourse. As New
> West's Northern Idaho Editor, I am delighted to have him on board. He
> has greatly enriched the site with his knowledge and carefully
> reasoned arguments.
>
> About models of civil exchange -- on my drive to Portland yesterday, I
> happened to catch a Pastor Rogers preaching on the lower end of the FM
> dial. His sermon was taken from Paul, 11 Corinthians and Galations.
> A few things he had to say interested me greatly -- and, being a
> closet fan of Baptist preaching style, I really couldn't help
> listening. Pastor Rogers is a master of the form. Every sentence
> ends with an exclamatory "ah," as in "Jesus-ah!" Rogers preached
> about the "real Jesus" and a "false Jesus," declaring that Paul in II
> Corinthians warned us of a false Jesus to be found in false gospels
> and false ministers.
>
> (For some reason, Rogers specifically castigated the Jehovah's
> Witnesses and the Mormons as worshipping a false Jesus. I can see why
> a Baptist (or proto-Baptist) preacher might disapprove of the Mormons
> -- Southern Baptists, at least, consider the Mormons polytheists.
> This has to do with that telestial versus celestial kingdom business.
> Also, The Book of Mormon, "another testament of Jesus Christ," is an
> insurmountable problem for the Baptists. It freaks them out like
> nothing else short of Wicca, Catholicism, and lesbians wearing jeans,
> flannel, and Danner steel-toed workboots. Gay men, on the other hand,
> are A-okay with most Southern Baptist women: someone has to decorate
> their homes and tease their hair.
>
> I must admit that I am puzzled as to why would Rogers slam the
> Jehovah's Witnesses. My understanding is that the JWs are a sort of
> primitive Primitive Baptists -- very strict, very literalist, not a
> lot of fun at surprise birthday parties. If anyone can enlighten me
> about this, please do so offlist. Keely? Scott?)
>
> Okay, where was I? Ah yes, Pastor Rogers and II Corinthians. He
> quoted Verse 4: Am I therefore the enemy because I tell you the truth?
> There has been a lot of talk coming from Christ Church and the Christ
> Church-affliated blogs lately about Doug Wilson's "enemies" and the
> "battle to come." Doug launched an astonishing attack on the members
> of his own congregation (http://dougwils.com) last week that beat all
> I have ever seen. He accused members of the church of being traitors
> and turn-coats, weaklings and cowards. He castigated them for not
> supporting him in his battles; for daring to have opinions and ideas
> of their own; and for not being what Rose would call "lock-step
> toadies" to his particular (and frequently peculiar) interpretation of
> the Bible. He talked about enemies existing both within and without
> the church, but his focus was on those within.
>
> "Am I therefore your enemy because I tell you the truth?"
>
> I recently re-read "Labour of Love" (which is available on Tom
> Hansen's website, http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse) and was
> struck by the difference in tone between its gentle but firm Christian
> remonstrance and Doug's flailing about, his girding up his loins for
> battle, his turning up rocks, searching behind trees, and looking
> under the bed for heathen enemy boogeymen. I doubt Pastor Rogers and
> I would enjoy one another's company. He's anti-choice; he's anti-gay;
> and he probably has hair taller than the Empire State Building, with
> Fay Wray and King Kong shellacked to the side, but yesterday he said,
> "When looking for the devil, fail not to look in the pulpit."
>
> Doug is welcome to attack me. So, too, are his minions -- my dear
> blogstalkers, who give Brother Carl and I a good fifteen minutes of
> free radio material every Sunday -- but when a shepherd begins to
> assault his flock, I begin to worry. I begin to worry a lot. I fear
> for those who cannot escape the onslaught for whatever reason, social,
> spiritual, or financial. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts
> absolutely. Doug recently announced that his son, Nathan, was his
> best and wisest advisor. Nathan is a foolish and sheltered 26
> year-old. He edits Doug's magazine, Credenda Agenda, a nightmare
> publication of hateful bigotry, willful ignorance, and distasteful,
> snotty, immature arrogance. He acquired a few years of nearly-real
> life experience at the margins of the wider world by attending a
> couple of small, sheltered liberal arts colleges, but he came home and
> entered his father's employ. On the whole, he knows about as much of
> the world as a novice in a nunnery. Nate's father is his be-all,
> end-all, his boss and his minister, his teacher and his guide, and yet
> Nate is now the man to whom Doug turns for his best and wisest advice?
> Nate is a filial echo chamber. This is a sad case of the snake
> biting its own tail . . . when it's not biting its own flock.
>
> "Am I therefore your enemy because I tell you the truth?"
>
> The answer, clearly, is yes. I don't expect Doug to listen to me.
> Doug doesn't believe I have access to the truth. I'm not saved. I
> don't believe in Jesus Christ, and if I did, I wouldn't be a
> Calvinist. I wouldn't buy into the notion that God created some of us
> to be saved and the rest to be damned. That's not a god worthy of
> worship; that's a capricious god worthy only of fear and contempt.
> But Doug believes in this god, and so too, I must assume, do his
> followers. When Doug attacks those followers -- when he calls them
> enemies and traitors -- they must fear for their salvation. How
> extraordinarily cruel their minister is -- how cruel, and how
> contemptuous of his flock. I am sick and sad and sorry for them, and
> I pray for their deliverance.
>
> (Jerry Falwell says that God doesn't answer the prayers of Jews.
> Jerry Falwell is a jackass. God answers the prayers of all of us,
> just as surely as the staff at the Wendy's Drive-Thru answers Jerry's
> late-night Frosty orders.)
>
> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> www.auntie-establishment.com
>
> PS: Though I will continue with the blogstalker update on The Auntie
> Establishment & Brother Carl Show (when and if any of their bloggy
> nonsense amuses Brother Carl and me), I am hereby unilaterally
> declaring a Sunday night blackout on Doug Wilson and Christ Church.
> No news, no jokes, no nothing about the BM (Big Man) of New St.
> Andrews, Anselm House, Logos School, Credenda Agenda or Christ Church.
> If you tune in expecting to hear it, you will be disappointed. For
> the time being, I am done. Finished. Finito. The sign is up: Do Not
> Feed the Bear of Moscow. He doesn't want our secular berries -- he's
> got parishioners to eat.
>
> PPS: Another reminder that Brother Carl's and my show is now on KRFP,
> 92.5 FM from 3 to 5 PM on Sundays, rather than 5 to 7 PM. This is
> because Carl is an old man. Don't let his youthful, sexy voice fool
> you; he's actually 107 years old, and not only does he want 1.7 more
> beers before dinner, he wants to be in bed and asleep by 7:30. This
> is so he can get up at 4 AM and wake all the area roosters. Without a
> nudge from Brother Carl, they might forget to crow.
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