[Vision2020] A question for the lovely and talented Joan aka Auntieor any other writing type people on this forum

[Timothy Rigsby]

Joan and Bill:

Thank you for your input on the matter.  However, I am still slightly confused.  Doug
is writing a new book using some of the same words he used in Southern Slavery correct?
Ok, great, but he is also adding to this new book that used writings from Southern
Slavery.  Great, even better.  I guess I don't understand how this could be considered
a new book since the information is the same and most, or even some, of the words are
verbatim out of Southern Slavery.

Does this mean if I put a new motor in my 1988 Dodge Dakota that I get a new truck?
I still have some of the old parts, but I added a new motor.  Kind of like keeping part
of Southern Slavery but adding more words to make it look new.

I guess we won't be able to tell if this is a new edition or in fact a new book until
we can compare the two side by side.

I think Doug is rubbing off on me with these analogies and such.  He is so creative.

Thanks Joan and Bill. 

Tim

----- Original Message -----
From: "joanopyr at earthlink.net" <joanopyr at earthlink.net>
Date: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:55 pm
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] A question for the lovely and talented Joan aka Auntieor any other writing type people on this forum

> Tim Rigsby asks:
> 
> "Ms. Joan or any other authors on this forum, Bill London included:
> 
> I noticed that Moscow's favorite Neo-Con Christian author is re-
> releasinghis book (can't italicize of underline here) Southern 
> Slavery as it Was
> that he co-authored/edited.  I see that he has changed the title from
> Southern Slavery to either Black and Tan or Regenerate but 
> Unreconstructed.Is this a common thing for a writer to do when 
> they re-release a second
> edition of a book?  I know that with college textbooks, when they 
> changeeditions, the title generally stays the same.
> 
> Could you provide some insight from a well-versed writer on the 
> norm of a
> new edition of a book like Southern Slavery?"
> 
> Well, Tim, I'm only now publishing my first book, but I know the 
> answer to
> your question.  I worked in library acquisitions for many years, 
> and I have
> been a writer/editor for nearly twenty years.  (I was also a book 
> reviewerfor the Raleigh News and Observer in the late 80s, early 
> 90s.)  Doug is not
> publishing a new edition of Southern Slavery As It Was; he's 
> publishing a
> new book.  Hence, the new title.  All of the plagiarized pieces of 
> SouthernSlavery As It Was will have been edited out, leaving him 
> with . . . hell, I
> don't know, three pages and an index?  Calling Degenerate and 
> Unredeemed(or whatever the title is) a new edition of Southern 
> Slavery As It Was is a
> face-saving ploy.  The book was originally published in 1996.  
> Nearly nine
> years later, Doug has finally admitted to the plagiarism (sort 
> of).  After
> World magazine published an investigative piece critical of Doug's 
> work, he
> posted a mea culpa to his blog.  This was last week, I believe.  
> It would
> also seem that Canon, Doug's vanity press, has been obliged to 
> issue a
> letter of apology to the authors of Time on the Cross, Fogel and 
> Engermann,for quoting from that work so freely and without proper 
> attribution.   
> 
> Were you living in Moscow last year when the Credenda Agenda "history"
> conference blew up in Mr. Wilson's face?  I remember the scene 
> fondly -- it
> was like a pie fight in a Three Stooges movie.  I refer you and 
> any other
> interested Visionaries to an interview Doug gave to the Daily News 
> sometimein late November/early December 2002 in which he asserted 
> that he never
> backed down and he never apologized; in short, he implied that he 
> was never
> wrong.  His hubris notwithstanding, it wasn't long after that that he
> pulled Southern Slavery As It Was from the Canon Press shelves and
> announced that he would be writing and publishing a "new edition." 
> New
> editions do not typically have new titles.  Neither, of course, is it
> typical for an author to have to retract fully one-third of his or 
> her book.
> 
> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> 
> PS: Drop me a line, Tim, and we'll meet for coffee.  Let's be sure to
> announce the time and the place publicly in case Doug wants to 
> come along
> and give us autographed copies of his new book.  I'm ready and 
> willing to
> review it for New West magazine.  Doug's history makes for better 
> fantasyfiction than Harry Potter.     
> 
> 
> 
>