[Vision2020] answers....answers.....answers

[cjs]

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From: Debbie Gray dgray at uidaho.edu
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:27:28 -0700
To: cjs cjs at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] answers....answers.....answers

> So let me get this straight, you want them to submit their visions to
> several architects and then shop for the plan that matches their vision?

No. They are to shop for the best fee, and qualified.

> Or do you want them to submit their visions to the architect they _shopped
> for_ and then put out an RFP for contractors to do the work (which seems
> to be what they are doing)  or are you just trying to negate every single
> step of this long, complex but well-documented public decision making
> process?

Well documented???? What documentation might you have?
 
> They would all use the same cost estimates (RS Means building costs
> estimates or something similar), they would all operate under the same
> design guidelines. I am truly not getting your point. What would be gained
> by having 23 different architectural firms involved?

> maybe i need more sleep

YES, you do. And get up on the other side of the bed. Or continue to sleep.................

Phil

> 
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, cjs wrote:
> > Have you ever shopped for an attorney? Just like shopping for an architec> t.
> >
> > > And I don't get your second question or answer, what do you mean they h> ave
> > > no idea what they are buying? quantity (of what?) quality (of what?).
> >
> > Case in point.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, cjs wrote:
> > >
> > > > I do see I have received 2 answers today:
> > > >
> > > > 1) First, there was no competition for the architect.  I wonder how m> any > architects were consulted and interviewed for this project?  Sounds l> ike on> e (1).
> > > >
> > > > 2) Second, that in all probability, MSD has no idea exactly what it i> s bu> ying. They don’t have quantity or quality estimates, just a raw num> ber.  > The location is not set in stone and, for a project that is 2-3 yea> rs in th> e future, they have a 5% contingency fund. With the architects ow> n numbers > we would be over 10% short before we even start construction. P> lus or minus>  a point or two. Either way.
> > > >
> > > > Phil Roderick
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > Debbie
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> > >   Debbie Gray      dgray at uidaho.edu
> > >   We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
> > >   so as to have the life that is waiting for us." --Joseph Campbell
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> Debbie
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>   Debbie Gray      dgray at uidaho.edu
>   We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
>   so as to have the life that is waiting for us." --Joseph Campbell
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