FW: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 15 19:02:43 PDT 2005
Sorry, typo...that's April 26th...old fingers, don'tchaknow?
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: kjajmix1 at msn.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:54:23 -0700
>
>Thank you, Ms. Keely.
>
>Will we see you at the next meeting, Mr.s Phil and Arnold? It is on April
>25 at 7pm.
>
>
>
>>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>To: donovanarnold at hotmail.com, privatejf32 at hotmail.com,
>>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
>>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:45:20 -0700
>>
>>
>>The MSD website's facilities section has 22 links to information. The
>>district has put out information (not campaign material) about the process
>>and the bond over the course of the FPC's work. My facilities file is
>>five inches thick; not one document is secret. The website's facilities
>>section has been continually updated. The FPC has produced a number of
>>articles and handouts about the process and the bond. I wrote a few of
>>them. You may have just received the MSD newsletter, School Connections,
>>with several pages of facilities/bond info. Many folks, myself included,
>>have attended MSD and/or FPC public forums, open houses, and worksessions
>>about the bond and the process leading up to it. All were well advertised.
>> CQE recently produced a flyer about the bond, including a "did they
>>consider?" section for the FAQ connoisseurs among us. I and Dr. Donicht
>>and many others have given numerous radio and newspaper interviews. And,
>>as you all know, I've spent a bit of time lately on Vision 2020, trying to
>>answer questions.
>>
>>The inclination of some to not avail themselves of information regarding
>>the bond does not equal a disinclination on the part of the district to
>>operate with integrity. On the contrary, if we're trying to stonewall,
>>then I'd say we're doing a damned poor job of it.
>>
>>keely
>>
>>But we're not. It's been there, it is there, and
>>
>>
>>
>>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
>>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:27:57 -0700
>>
>>Humm, perhaps that is because the MSD did not create a website that had
>>FAQ. If you did that, you would not be asked 500 questions.
>>
>>When your plan is unclear, documents are not available, and you ask for a
>>lot of money, "You should been there" does not tow the line for a "yes"
>>vote. And even if it is passed, we still want to know the answers, it is
>>our money.
>>
>>When the Graduate Students at UI have a big proposal we create a website
>>with questions and background about the issue. Let people look at
>>everything and ask questions. We also do not say question are stupid.
>>Because when we do that, it makes other people fearful to ask questions.
>>Then we never get the questions we should be asked. Rule number one is if
>>one person asks a question, ten others are thinking the same thing.
>>
>>If your are getting 500 questions and they are the same 500 questions,
>>that ought to say something about the planning and dispersion of
>>information, not the people asking the questions.
>>
>>Take Care,
>>
>>Donovan J Arnold
>>
>>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
>>>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:59:02 -0700
>>>
>>>Ya know, maybe since questions are being asked and answers ARE being
>>>given but not listened to perhaps this needs to end. The questions below
>>>have been repeatedly answered - I believe the problem is they are not the
>>>answers being sought. It's kinda like a conspiracy theory that keeps
>>>coming up regarding such things as Kennedy, or aliens amongst us, etc.
>>>No matter how many times the facts are presented, if the person is not
>>>willing to see what is there as being there, it isn't. Make sence?
>>>Neither does this mess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
>>>>To: <auntiestablishment at hotmail.com>
>>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
>>>>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:45:06 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dear Visionaries:
>>>>
>>>>.......great investigative reporting by Phil "Gumshoe" Roderick and Jack
>>>>Doc Holliday" Wenders about those notorious Palouse gangsters, Keely
>>>>"Baby
>>>>Face" Mix and the Trail family mafia.
>>>>
>>>>No need for name calling Joan. We are all bigger than that.
>>>>
>>>>"There is NO $29mil remodel of the high school. The $29mil is for the
>>>>ENTIRE
>>>>remodel/buidling project which includes two elementary schools and the
>>>>high
>>>>school and the new high school If you want a break-down of that, then
>>>>you
>>>>need say so. BTW, that has been supplied to the newspapers, in
>>>>newsletters,
>>>>
>>>>is available at the District Office and was very available on Saturday
>>>>in
>>>>the form of the individual handouts that the architect had for
>>>>everyone's
>>>>convenience. Did you not get a copy of those? I am sure if you went to
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>District Office and asked NICELY they would direct you to the material.
>>>>I
>>>>believe they are/will be available at the individual schools also."
>>>>
>>>>It is broken down on the new high school how about the old high school
>>>>remodel. " That is what we keep asking for. Over and over and over.
>>>>Without
>>>>getting answers it does look like a cartel and acts like one. Maybe you
>>>>could ask and see if they tell you anything different? Ask exactly what
>>>>I
>>>>asked them for.
>>>>
>>>>1) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COST BREAKDOWN FROM THE ARCHITECT OF THE
>>>>20,500
>>>>000.00 "REMODEL" OF THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL."
>>>>
>>>>2) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE "DIRECTIVE" FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE
>>>>ARCHITECT "DIRECTING" HOW THE BID IS TO BE DONE."
>>>>
>>>>..................Once the bond is approved, is there any particular
>>>>reason
>>>>we can't begin a fresh argument over where to locate it? NO so if you go
>>>>into the grocery store and none of the prices are posted and you pick up
>>>>everything you need and throw it in your shopping cart and ya get to the
>>>>cash register and ya find out ya only have enough money for half of what
>>>>ya
>>>>got.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, this is sad that the elementary schools will lose out on the levy
>>>>because of wanting a new high school. Maybe they should just ask for a
>>>>levy
>>>>on the elementary schools and not the high school? I bet the vote might
>>>>be
>>>>different. I understand the way the levy is written they can move the
>>>>money
>>>>anywhere they seem fit. So - we are not guaranteed any money is going to
>>>>the
>>>>elementary schools, period.
>>>>
>>>>Also -- and this is a big also -- here's the complete 411 on this levy:
>>>>West
>>>>Park and Russell are crumbling. They're inadequate. It is my
>>>>understanding
>>>>that they are not in compliance with the ADA. What's more, it would be
>>>>cheaper by far to scrap them both and build a new elementary school at
>>>>the
>>>>Joseph Street site So why don't we?
>>>>
>>>>Next levy.
>>>>
>>>>Well, I'd say it's because the Moscow School Board is sensitive to the
>>>>emotional and aesthetic attachment many of us feel for West Park and/or
>>>>Russell. (With regard to Russell in particular, its aesthetic appeal,
>>>>history and location seem to be of paramount concern to many. And I'm
>>>>glad
>>>>for this. I think Russell is a beautiful school, and it would pain me
>>>>to
>>>>lose it.)
>>>>
>>>>Pains me to lose the aesthetically pleasing high school.
>>>>
>>>>.............disingenuous, disinformation websites like
>>>>www.moscowlevy.com
>>>>and www.moscoweducation.org.
>>>>
>>>>I see nothing but honesty and integrity from both of these websites. No
>>>>dog
>>>>and pony show. Just the facts.
>>>>
>>>>You know there might be plenty of money already in the school coffer.
>>>>How
>>>>come the school board is not prudently using our tax money to help these
>>>>poor elementary schools?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Just asking for the facts. Nothing more. Is the truth insulting?
>>>>Sorry......
>>>>.....the tide continues to rise as long as people ignore questions the
>>>>public want answered..
>>>>
>>>>This outcome would certainly please Dale Courtney and Jack Wenders (both
>>>>of
>>>>whom were extensively, if ironically, educated on the public dime), but
>>>>how
>>>>many of the rest of us would be dancing in the streets? Precious few, I
>>>>suspect; precious few.
>>>>
>>>>I think there are plenty more people that would like this levy not to
>>>>pass.
>>>>We will all shortly know.
>>>>
>>>>How about you ask the question(s) and see where you get?
>>>>
>>>>1) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COST BREAKDOWN FROM THE ARCHITECT OF THE
>>>>20,500
>>>>000.00 "REMODEL" OF THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL."
>>>>
>>>>2) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE "DIRECTIVE" FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE
>>>>ARCHITECT "DIRECTING" HOW THE BID IS TO BE DONE."
>>>>
>>>>Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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