[Vision2020] Re:Specifics
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 15 14:36:49 PDT 2005
I am going to go out on a limb, mainly because you have supplied it:
"Daily" is not an answer to my SPECIFIC question. (To Auntie; I am not
shouting, I just don't have a good enough program to emphasize my
words...sorry, ok?) You make reference and continue to accuse Ms. Keely et
al of not specifically answering your specific questions; yet, when one is
put to you, you dodge whatever bullet you feel is coming at you.
I do understand your frustration of getting keyed and property damage.
(BTW, my deductible is $500 for the car and $5000 for the house.) But,
again, these are what everyone in this town has some knowledge or experience
with. Again, it does not excuse it, but neither does it pinpoint you as a
specific target and I totally resent your implication that a school
supporter would do something like this. Don't deny it - that is exactly
what you are doing. Why else would you make the e-mail at this time?
Mr. Phil: I realize once you get onto something, you probably don't back
down from it no matter how many times or in what manner you may have been
shown that you are being listened to and answered. But I ask you as one
citizen to another, as one who cares for this town to another, as a human to
another - please tone down your anger, your implications, your accusations,
your angst. Realize that people are only trying to do what is best for
their children. Don't take this on as a personal attack and don't take this
on as your "battling of windmills." Don Quixote you are not, ok?
West Park and Russell School, as well as the high school, need attention and
need it now. Waiting will only increase the cost and the risk to our
children. Why wait until we end up sueing to get things done (ala Troy?)
Asking questions is fine - IF you are willing to listen to the answers you
get and IF you are willing to realize not all answers are available - not
because things are being hidden but because not everything is absolute yet.
Again, that is the bid process.
Take care and be caring.
>From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
>To: <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] FYI
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:09:44 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
>
>
>
>WHEN did these things occur? WHEN did you report them?
>
>Daily.
>
>As far as your car - you BETTER have insurance or you better NOT be
>driving.
>(Yes, I do have insurance.)
>
>Of course I do. What is your deductible?
>
>Hang-ups in this town is an every-day fact...not excusing it, just stating
>facts. It happens.
>
>Well, in the past couple of weeks our hangups have significantly increased.
>
>Employees being threatened...that all sounds to me like patronage issues.
>Sorry, but you do run a bar and they are notorious for having problems.
>Again, no attack - just stating facts. Perhaps this is why you are
>selling?
> I have seen plenty of places where bouncers ARE on the outside as well
>as
>inside the building. Not saying you should, but if you are having so many
>problems, could be an idea.
>
>Yup - the employees and us get threats all the time. We have just recently
>received a ton of them.
>Yes, my security (bouncers) try to keep an eye on the outside of the
>building as well as the inside the best that they can. However, most of the
>incidents" happen when they are not here.
>Just an FYI but the building has been for sale since 1997.
>
>Moscow is sorta like living in a military town - there are inherent
>problems
>that come from those kinds of populations. What you state as happening is
>some of what can be expected - not excused but expected.
>
>Yes, we do expect some things that we have experienced since we have been
>here. But nothing like these past couple of weeks. Yes, we have disgruntled
>x employees. Yes, we have Africa Americans employed that a lot of people do
>not like. Yes, we have unhappy customers. Yes, we are against the school
>levy. Yes, we are against the BID.
>
>Now, you mention military school. Yes, Moscow should be treated as a
>military town. That way we would get money from the state and federal
>government for every student that goes into the public school system K-12
>so
>that they are not a burden on it's citizens. A military base is tax free.
>Just like a University.
>
>
> >From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
> >To: <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] FYI
> >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:25:27 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
> >
> >
> >My car has been keyed.
> >My front window has been broken out.
> >Remarks painted on my building.
> >Lots of hang ups.
> >Employees threatened.
> >
> >Yes, I have insurance but that is not the point. Do you have insurance?
> >
> >I don't know how it would effect the sale of my building. I really don't
> >care.
> >
> >Nope. Bouncers work on the inside. Moscow PD works on the outside.
> >
> >I am also responding to your direct, simply asked questions.
> >
> >Phil
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
> > >To: <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> > >CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] FYI
> > >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:06:36 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
> > >
> > >Yes - I am making police reports.
> > >
> > >Phil
> > >
> > >-------Original Message-------
> > >
> > >From: J Ford
> > >Date: 04/15/05 12:02:04
> > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] FYI
> > >
> > >Please...have you made police reports of such? Do you have cameras on
> >the
> > >outside of your building (like the car dealerships and Wal Mart)? Is
>it
> > >possible you have people who are angry or dissatisfied with your
> > >establishment? Are you implying that a school supporter is doing this?
> > >When did it start?
> > >
> > > >From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
> > > >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > >Subject: [Vision2020] FYI
> > > >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:54:30 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
> > > >
> > > >FOR SOME REASON WE ARE OCCURING DAILY VANDALISM TO OUR BUILDING AND
> > > >PERSONAL
> > > >PROPERTY.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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