[Vision2020] RE: Vote no

Thu Apr 14 09:59:37 PDT 2005

Yes, JC.  I am disably (rated at 60%) retired (with 20 years of service).

Thank Go for Tri-Care.  My spouse is on medications of which I pay (at most)
$9 per prescription, sometimes $6.  A year ago last September (that would
make it September 2003), I was admitted to Gritman Medical Center for a
double hernia operation.  This required three over-night stays in addition
to the operation.  Within a few weeks after being discharged from the
hospital, I started receiving the bills.  The total came to just over
$10,000 (yes, ten thousand dollars) of which I paid (out of pocket) $426.35.

Now before those of you on the right side of the aisle start claiming that I
am "getting over", in addition to that $426.35, I also paid with 20 years of
my life, full use of my right leg, and contracting of degenerative
osteo-arthritis (from my right ankle thru my right kneecap).

So, to answer your question, JC -  Yes.  I am a veteran.

Take care, Moscow.

Tom Hansen

Retired, but still serving

We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are
dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors....but they all
exist very nicely in the same box. 

  _____  

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Julie C
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:58 AM
To: donovanarnold at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] RE: Vote no

"And I do not have Tri-Care anymore." This is what you said.....Apparently I
missed something...you are a veteran as well??

Confused,

JC

*~*The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but
in having new eyes.*~* 

----Original Message Follows---- 

From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com> 

To: idahotom at hotmail.com, thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com 

Subject: RE: [Vision2020] RE: Vote no 

Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:48:11 -0700 

"$10/hour" Well, Tom I think that is too much for what you do. 

Also keep in mind that the majority of people on SSI only get less then $450
a month and only $120 a month in food stamps. 

You ask what I have do for the taxpayers. Well, for one, I am legally
entitled a disability check of $617 a month. But I do not collect it because
I am capable of working. I would rather the money go to the people that
cannot work. When I do work, I only make $8-10 hour. And I do not have
Tri-Care anymore. The university health insurance benefits I had were taken
from me. The only real coverage I have is catastrophic which is required by
UI because of Gritman. 

So I do not know if giving up a $617 check each year is something. But
considering I only take home $1000 a month, it sure feels like. I do not
know how people with two kids make it on $1200 and the two older women
across the street from me make it on $650 a month. 

That is why I am fighting to make sure that many people that are not able to
work and have limited income options do not have to keep paying higher taxes
and rent. I also know that many of people with disabilities are having to
get housing outside Moscow and none are moving in because their federal
checks do not increase at the same rate Moscow is increasing there costs of
living and benefits. 

You cannot keep raising taxes and the rent on the poor while cutting their
benefits and not expect to soon hit a point where they cannot afford to live
here anymore. 

Mr. Hansen, could you afford to live in Moscow on just your disability
income? 

I also have checked your times for posting. You do  use taxpayer computers
to post. I do not know if you are suppose to be working because I do not
know your hours. But the times are varied all over the place if you look
them up under author on the V2020 archives. Except 2 PM I could find every
time of the day you posted. 

Enjoy your beer. 

Donovan J Arnold 

>From: "Tom Hansen" <idahotom at hotmail.com> 

>To: donovanarnold at hotmail.com, thansen at moscow.com, 

>vision2020 at moscow.com 

>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] RE: Vote no 

>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:13:39 -0700 

> 

>Mr Arnold stated: 

> 

>"I would much rather have that money go to the kids then to pay 

>someone $40-60 a year to post emails to V2020." 

> 

>Your numbers are a little off, Mr. Arnold.  I feel that the reason 

>that I was overlooked when pink slips were handed out, is because 

>laying me off would not result in any noticeable savings. 

> 

>If it wasn't for my Army retirement pension and Tri-Care (active 

>duty and retiree health insurance), chances are fairly definite that 

>I would most certainly not be working in the position I am now. 

> 

>For the sake of argument, I earn $10/hour.  That's right, ten 

>dollars an hour. 

> 

>That income, coupled with 40% of my retirment pension (as I am 

>disabled and only 40% of it is taxable), I don't even qualify for a 

>tax bracket. 

> 

>So, unless you have anything of value to add, Mr. Arnold, my beer is 

>not getting any colder and I am kinda in the mood for "Start Me Up" 

>by Mick Jagger. 

> 

>What have you done for the tax payers today, Donovan? 

> 

>Take care, 

> 

>Tom Hansen 

> 

> 

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