[Vision2020] Flip-Flop

Tue Apr 12 12:42:07 PDT 2005

Mr Carscallen,

Think for a minute what you are saying. I get so busy too sometimes it feels 
like I am in two places at once.  But a student takes no more then one 
chair, one desk, and one computer, no matter how many programs, classes or 
tests you give them. You can give a student 500 subjects and requirements 
but they still would take up the same amount of space.

All of the programs you are talking about that are added, are mandatory. 
That means you do not have to have 8 kids in one class and 20 in another 
wasting classroom space as you are trying to say. You could pack them to 
capacity, everyone has to take the mandatory class. It would only be small 
elective classes offered that would force tiny class sizes. Yes, I heard 
this argument before. It defies physics.

This is not a logical argument that you are making. It is an emotional one. 
You want a new high school.

I want a new high school too. However, I am not going to do it at the 
expense of the elderly, disabled, and poverty stricken in this community. 
People think that these individuals are protected from huge rent increases 
when property taxes go up, but they are dead wrong. We already have many 
people trying to make it on their $450 a month SSI check and $120 month in 
food stamps. Most communities in the west, like California, Washington, 
Nevada, and Oregon, provide additional assistance to what the federal 
government offers. Moscow does not. What little they do offer, is income 
based, and based on national set levels with the expectation local and state 
will add to it. When Latah County raises its rates, nobody increases 
qualifications for federal or state aid. Because it is income based and 
their income does not decrease, but their rent increases, they get no more 
assistance.. Further, people that live in houses, like you Dan, get a 50% 
tax exemption, the poor do not. Many end up paying the same amount on a tax 
levy like this as you do. Try doing that on an income of less then $650 a 
month.

So you can vote for the Big Fancy New High School, which will only be 85% 
complete anyway. That is your right and you have children and pay taxes.

I am going to vote for quality of life for the disabled, elderly, and 
poverty stricken, and so kids can afford food, clothing, and rent when they 
graduate from High School. Silly me, I thought teenagers went to high school 
so they could get a job and pay rent after they graduated. As much as people 
love their children they are not going to be happy that their children 
cannot afford to move out of the house.

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold

>From: "Dan Carscallen" <predator75 at moscow.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Flip-Flop
>Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:06:47 -0700
>
>Donovan,
>
>it's not the numbers of the kids, it's the classes that are offered now.
>There are so many subjects available, not to mention more core classes
>required, that you need more rooms, even though there may be less kids
>per class.
>
>I've talked to people.  They tell me these things.
>
>DC
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:31 AM
>To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Flip-Flop
>
>
>Mr. Hansen,
>
>Can you please explain to me in your head how comparing the value of the
>
>dollar and standard of living from 1965 and 2005 is any what remotely
>connect to the same thing as comparing how many desks and chairs a
>student
>took up  in 1991 vs. 2005?
>
>Are you saying that 550 students in 2005 take up more classroom space
>desks
>and chairs then 700 students in 1991? If so please explain to how this
>is
>possible. I am very curious.
>
>
>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
> >From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: [Vision2020] Flip-Flop
> >Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:59:44 -0700
> >
> >Donovan Arnold, Saturday (April 9, 2005) (concerning using funds for a
> >new high school) "It was good enough for us 13 years ago, it should be
> >good enough now." [FLIP]
> >
> >Donovan Arnold, Monday (April 11, 2005) (concerning the economy) " . .
> >. There is too much difference. Rent and medical costs are more, and
> >wages are lower. You also need different stuff to live. You cannot
> >compare the times and changes on those levels. It is just not
> >comparable. It is totally different worlds."  [FLOP]
> >
> >In the immortal words of Nancy Reagan:  "Just say 'No" to drugs"
> >Right, Donovan?
> >
> >Take care, Moscow.
> >
> >Tom Hansen
> >
> >"Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to a
> >garage makes you a mechanic."
> >
> >
> >
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