[Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Vote YES on School Levy :-)

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 8 16:56:48 PDT 2005 

Sir/Madam (since you keep signing in as Shelly but signing as Phil);

Since YOU refuse to answer direct questions that are put to you - by anyone 
- I will leave it here.  Your statements truly speak for themselves.

Wishing you all the best...


>From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
>To: <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>CC: <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Vote YES on School Levy :-)
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:13:38 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
>
>Whoever you are JFord, whatever you are JFord, I was referring to you and
>only you. You made my point very clear. Thank you. Now please, grow up. Go
>back to your corner. Once again, you are not listening. Take your stabs at
>me OFF THIS LIST. You are embarrassing yourself and do not need to waste 
>the
>people's time.
>
>
>Phil
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: J Ford
>Date: 04/08/05 11:43:55
>To: CJs at Turbonet.com
>Subject: Re: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Vote YES on School Levy :-)
>
>Boy, is this a telling statement or what:
>
>"Oh dear. I hope that you are not a teacher. You have zero common sense let
>alone any reasoning or listening capabilities."
>
>So, teachers have zero common sense, reasoning or listening capabilities?
>
>Since it HAS been five days (as you say) that you have known about the 
>levey
>(BTW, this has been out there since 2001 - where have you been?) when do 
>you
>plan to go to the schools and talk to the teachers/admin/students about 
>what
>they feel their needs are?
>
>
>
> >From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
> >To: <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Vote YES on School Levy :-)
> >Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:52:36 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
> >
> >Oh dear. I hope that you are not a teacher. You have zero common sense 
>let
> >alone any reasoning or listening capabilities.
> >
> >Once again Mr. J I have only been notified of this levy for about 5 days
> >now
> >  This is the third time I have told you. I had no idea what was going on
> >till people told me and I had to look further. When I looked further, I
> >have
> >yet more questions that do not seem to get answered.
> >
> >I hope you listen right now as Donovan and I are not in cahoots or 
>whatever
> >you think, as we are the only ones voicing the truth.  We have no agenda
> >other than to get the truth out and do what we feel is the best for the
> >students and our tax paying dollars. I have done my research. That is 
>after
> >I ask the question of where to look.  I have been frantically going over
> >the
> >minutes of the school minutes which is extremely time consuming. But you
> >guys keep telling me my answers are there. Still looking.
> >
> >I want you to listen right now again as I am the voice of many people. I
> >find it sad that these people will not talk on Vision 20/20 as they are
> >afraid for their jobs, their position in society, there church friends,
> >etc.
> >if  the public knew they were against the school board let alone this 
>levy.
> >They chose me to speak for them and ask the questions that I do because
> >they
> >know I do not care what people like you think. Because you are one person
> >that does not think. You have proved this over and over with your
> >statements
> >about me. If you don't like me, please take it off list. This is a place
> >for
> >public information and knowledge about Moscow and it's community. Not for
> >irrational, childish behavior such as you have professed.
> >
> >Did you get my email OFF LIST? Still waiting for your answer, OFF LIST or
> >if
> >it makes ya happy, post here. I don't care.
> >
> >Now, go to your corner.
> >
> >Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >-------Original Message-------
> >
> >From: J Ford
> >Date: 04/07/05 22:35:55
> >To: sslund at adelphia.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Vote YES on School Levy :-)
> >
> >Well said Ms. Lund.
> >
> >The only real question I have for the TWO gents raising all this fuss is,
> >where is this bit about the Junior High Electrical coming from?  Seems as
> >if
> >this levy continues to be the topic of the day some other smoke screens
> >will
> >be presented.
> >
> >Again, WHY HAVEN't YOU, Mr. Arnold and Mr. Phil, GONE TO THE SCHOOLS AND
> >TALKED TO THE TEACHERS/STUDENTS/ADMIN/BOARD/FACILITIES COMMITTEE?  WHERE
> >WERE YOU THESE PAST TWO or so YEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN A REAL TOPIC?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
> > >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >Subject: [Vision2020] Vote YES on School Levy  :-)
> > >Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:15:33 -0700
> > >
> > >The increased tax will be a hardship on our family, particularly with 
>the
> > >UI
> > >(courtesy of the State's devaluation of higher education & 
>administrative
> > >mismanagement at the UI) continuing to erode health benefits, pay, etc.
> > >
> > >I share some of the concerns expressed by others:  our schools don't 
>have
> > >enough text books (where is Arnold when you need him?), special ed
> > >resources
> > >are too limited, etc.
> > >
> > >BUT . . .
> > >
> > >I've actually been inside the high school over the past few years,
> > >something
> > >I suspect many of those opposed to the levy haven't done.  That school
> >has
> > >served our youth well, but it's in sad shape now.  Some have mentioned
> > >declining enrollment -- well, thank GOD because the facility is
> >inadequate.
> > >Period.  Perhaps the reason so many students eat off campus is because
> >the
> > >facilities are sorely inadequate.  Parking is inadequate.  As long as
> > >*parents* allow their kids to drive to school (in some cases, all of a
> >few
> > >blocks), parking at the current facility is going to be a problem for 
>the
> > >students, for faculty/staff, and for our community.
> > >
> > >Construction isn't going to get any cheaper, and something *has* to be
> > >done.
> > >Without more money than we could ever hope to come up with, there's 
>*no*
> > >way
> > >to make the current location work as our community's sole high school.
> > >
> > >A new high school is going to come too late to benefit my daughter, but
> >we
> > >are in this community for the long haul.  So, I'm thinking about the
> > >schools
> > >my daughter's kids (God willing) will have, my friends' kids will have,
> >and
> > >the rest of our community's kids will have.  In this family, we're
> >thinking
> > >about our community's future.
> > >
> > >Good people can -- and do -- disagree about the levy.
> > >
> > >We'll be voting YES on the levy because our community's most precious
> > >resource is our children, and we don't think this investment in our
> > >community's children is something we can pass up.  Our kids need 
>adequate
> > >facilities, including an adequate high school.  Facilities aren't the
> >only
> > >part of the equation, but they are an important part.
> > >
> > >BTW, I take great offense at the "ethical" objections to the grade
> > >reconfiguration of having a four-year high school.  Get real!  It's
> > >unethical, IMHO, to use scare tactics like that -- for shame, For 
>Shame,
> > >FOR
> > >SHAME!
> > >
> > >And, regardless of the levy outcome, I join many, many others in my
> >sincere
> > >*gratitude* to the Trail family for their generous offer!
> > >
> > >And, my thanks -- again -- to the Facilities Committee and the School
> >Board
> > >for their hard work sorting through the issues to come up with
> > >recommendations for us.
> > >
> > >
> > >Saundra Lund
> > >Moscow, ID
> > >
> > >The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to 
>do
> > >nothing.
> > >Edmund Burke
> > >
> > >
> > >
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