[Vision2020] Accomplishments?

Tue Apr 5 16:51:24 PDT 2005

JFord,

you write, "My point is made...YOU did not do these things - you HELPED with 
them."

I never claimed I did anything by myself. Also, thank you for countering 
your previous point that all do is complain and never help.

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold

And you are right, all I did is help. That is all anyone can do. You should 
it instead of just complaining and saying all other people is complain!

>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Accomplishments?
>Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:56:35 -0700
>
>
>
>As far as how UI works, since I went to the sources, I believe I have 
>things exactly as they are and were at the time you were there.  And since 
>I know some of these people have been there 7(+) years, I doubt you can 
>safely say they are new.
>
>You were a ASUI Senator - just not the all powerful one you think you were. 
>  Hmmmm....sounds like someone else that frequents this forum with initals 
>DW.
>
>See ya!
>
>>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Accomplishments?
>>Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:13:57 -0700
>>
>>JFord,
>>
>>You are very uninformed as to how UI works, I never worked with those 
>>people because they were not there in 2000-2003.  In addition, students 
>>leaders rarely, if even permitted, go to University level committees to 
>>testify, we talk to administrators who do that for us. So naturally, the 
>>Safety Committee, Housing Committee, and all other committees who have 
>>members that are new never heard of me.
>>
>>Here is a list of some people that knew me and I worked with on many key 
>>issues facing students.
>>
>>Dan Schoenberg, Former Director of Auxiliary Services
>>Mark Miller, Manager of the Commons,
>>Michael Griffel Director of Student Housing,
>>Bruce Pitman, Dean of Students,
>>Greg Tatham, Director of Student Government, Idaho Commons, Student Union 
>>and SRC.
>>Steve Janowiak, Advisor to Student Government,
>>Francisco Salinas, Director of Multicultural Affairs,
>>Sherry O. Farwell, Chemistry; Ph.D, Center for Hazardous Waste Remediation 
>>Research
>>Dr. Hoover, University of Idaho President
>>Dr. Chin, M.D. at UI Health Center
>>Dr. Monger, MD at UI Health Center
>>Any ASUI President since 2000
>>Claudia Hemphill, President of the Graduate Professional Student 
>>Association
>>
>>I am not going to engage with you on semantics of what "I did" means. 
>>However, if it pleases you to think that I was never an ASUI Senator, and 
>>never did anything or lead any efforts, you have my blessing, I really do 
>>not care, and I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else.  The original 
>>point by you and Tim Rigsby was that I did nothing but talk, your point 
>>was  proven to be false.  You can think all I did was kick kittens every 
>>Tuesday for all I care. Rejoice in whatever thoughts please you.
>>
>>Take Care,
>>
>>Donovan J Arnold
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Accomplishments?
>>>Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:52:31 -0700
>>>
>>>Boy, did you miss the point on this one!  Not surprising, really...
>>>
>>>If you did not accomplish these things alone, why did you flat out state 
>>>that you did?  Re-read your post, sir.  You specifically state that YOU 
>>>did these things.
>>>
>>>BTW, I have contacted some of the offices (Parking, House, Safety Office, 
>>>etc.) that you say you made these changes in...they don't know you.  And 
>>>they have specific procedures they follow in order for those changes to 
>>>take place.  It did not include YOU doing anything.  All of the changes 
>>>you speak of has to go through committee and be approved.  But, you need 
>>>to be on those committees in order to even be a part of that process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>>>>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Accomplishments?
>>>>Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:01:57 -0700
>>>>
>>>>J Ford,
>>>>
>>>>You write, "I am sure you have done a lot to HELP get these things done, 
>>>>but I am just as sure that it is not possible for any one person to do 
>>>>it all by themselves. . . "
>>>>
>>>>You figured that one out all by yourself? Nothing gets by you. When 
>>>>someone says they just flew into town, you are probably the wise one in 
>>>>the room that points out to everyone else that they probably took an 
>>>>airplane.
>>>>
>>>>And no, "Logic and Critical Thinking", a 200 level philosophy course, is 
>>>>not required for physical education majors. No philosophy courses are 
>>>>even required for physical education majors except "Introduction to 
>>>>Philosophy", which can also be substituted with another course.
>>>>
>>>>Good Day,
>>>>
>>>>Donovan J Arnold
>>>>
>>>>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Donovan's Accomplishments?
>>>>>Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 00:33:05 -0700
>>>>>
>>>>>Donovan writes (edited):
>>>>>
>>>>>"....While I am not bragging, and clearly know that hundreds of people 
>>>>>in this town do more for it then I do, I am certain I have done more 
>>>>>for Moscow and UI then Timothy Rigsby.
>>>>>
>>>>>Let us make a list shall we:
>>>>>
>>>>>Donovan:
>>>>>
>>>>>Moved the parking time from 6 PM to 5 PM that students can park in Gold 
>>>>>parking
>>>>>Improved Safety on Campus
>>>>>Saved $50,000 for UI on construction of new Living Learning Center
>>>>>Improved and repaired Family Housing Units
>>>>>Established equal rights for Gays and Lesbians on Campus
>>>>>Exposed the three UI Senators that stole burned the Gay/Straight 
>>>>>Alliance Flag
>>>>>Established a student Government for Family Housing
>>>>>Improved the safety of Family Housing Playgrounds
>>>>>Established the Kiosks (Little Computers) all around campus for quick 
>>>>>access
>>>>>Doubled funding and support for UI Student Clubs and Organizations
>>>>>Lowed renting costs for Student Clubs of UI property and facilities
>>>>>Lobbied and got the UI to replace all student furniture in the Resident 
>>>>>Halls in 2002
>>>>>Provided Funding for Alive after Five
>>>>>Ran the Government and Operations Committee for ASUI
>>>>>Twice elected and twice appointed student officer "
>>>>>
>>>>>You did all of this by yourself?  How is that possible since most of 
>>>>>what you list had to have gone through committees for discussion and 
>>>>>approval/disapproval much less you'd have had to had help/assistance to 
>>>>>accomplish these tasks?
>>>>>
>>>>>I am sure you have done a lot to HELP get these things done, but I am 
>>>>>just as sure that it is not possible for any one person to do it all by 
>>>>>themselves...just like the improvements in Moscow takes more than one 
>>>>>person - hence the need for a bond election.
>>>>>
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