[Vision2020] Youth and discernment

[Tom]

"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me 
to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem 
in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will 
come and I will have to focus on them." 

- President George Bush (June 25, 2003), in response to Palestinian Rime 
Minister Mahmoud Abbas

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?
itemNo=310788&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

or 

http://bushwatch.org/evangelist.htm


> Pat,
> 
> I heard that on a PBS discussion and I believe I also heard that on
> nightly news when someone asked him about it.
> 
> Dick
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Pat Kraut 
>   To: vision2020 
>   Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:23 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Youth and discernment
> 
> 
>   I didn't hear that he ever said God told him to invade Iraq! Where did
> you get that?
>   PK
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Dick Schmidt 
>     To: Joan Opyr ; Vision2020 Moscow 
>     Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:43 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Youth and discernment
> 
> 
>     Pat,
> 
>     Anyone who has been paying attention to the issues and what has
> transpired in the past 4 years under Bush sure wouldn't be voting to put
> him back for another term. I'm thinking that he is pretty close to a
> religious fanatic because he said God told him to invade Iraq. There are
> enough fanatics running countries in this world and we sure don't need
> one running ours.
> 
>     Dick Schmidt
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>       From: Joan Opyr 
>       To: Vision2020 Moscow 
>       Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 11:31 PM
>       Subject: [Vision2020] Youth and discernment
> 
> 
>       Pat writes:
> 
>       "I have come to the conclusion that people shouldn't be allowed to
> vote until they are 30 and have finished serious classes about the two
> parties and the candidates. AND about our history and what the
>       different parts of our government actually do. I really am coming
> to believe that some people just shouldn't have the vote. All these kids
> that Ophra and others are getting registered only know what people are
> telling them. They have not yet paid enough taxes, tried to start a
> business or gone far enough in life to learn who they really are and
> what they really think. I know that because I was one of them. When I
> talk to people about our history and form of government I am well aware
> that too many people weren't listening in History classes."
> 
> 
>       While the young arguably lack experience and occasionally wisdom,
> it's also the case that there's no fool like an old fool.  Those 18
> year-olds that Oprah and others are registering to vote represent our
> primary supply of warm, willing bodies for the war in Iraq.  It's not
> the old white farts of Congress -- or of Latah County -- who are out
> there patrolling the sands of Samarra.  And it's not the wrinkled and
> arthritic who will be paying off our national debt.  No, it's those poor
> benighted young people, the ones Pat thinks ought to be disenfranchised
> who will be (and are) saddled with our burdens.  If anyone should be
> denied the vote, perhaps it's those of us who are sitting here at home
> on our ignorant fat asses, watching reruns of "Murder She Wrote,"
> racking up debt, and blowing out smoke about wolves and terrorists,
> snipe hunts and tax cuts.  Youth doesn't make you stupid and age doesn't
> make you smart.  Not only is discernment hard to measure, it's damned
> hard to find -- kind of like a fart in a Jacuzzi.
> 
>       You see, I did listen in history class, and what I learned is that
> the old bitch tends to repeat herself.  
> 
>       Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment   
> 
> 
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