[Vision2020] Troy Lions candidate forum

Sat Oct 23 00:13:01 PDT 2004

Mr. Carscallen,

I don't recall seeing you at the 2004 Chamber of Commerce debate, as a 
member of the audience, or a candidate.

Nonetheless, if you don't think Kimmell collecting the questions and 
filtering them out is biased, I strongly suggest you re-educate yourself as 
to the definition of "bias".

As to the number of forums, I think it should be three in Moscow, including 
one at UI, one Boville, one Potlatch, one Genesee, and one for Troy/Deary, 
and one for Juliaetta/Kendrick. That is enough. 20 debates is too much when 
you only have an average of only 20 voters per forum. Time would be better 
spent going door to door after about 8 forums in different locations and 
different times.

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold

>From: "Dan Carscallen" <predator75 at moscow.com>
>To: <vision2020 at whale2.fsr.net>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Troy Lions candidate forum
>Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:59:20 -0700
>
>A couple points:
>
>As a former and future candidate, I seem to recall the questions at the 
>Chamber of Commerce forum coming from both sides of the aisle, so to speak. 
>  As for the Civic Association forum, it seemed a tad left leaning, along 
>with the League of Women Voters forum.  Maybe that's just me, since some 
>people have said I'm slightly to the right of the Archduke Ferdinand.  I 
>can also understand the candidate's hesitance to appear at so many forums.  
>Sure, its a helluva time commitment, but people do have families at home 
>who would like to see them a couple times a week.
>
>Point 2:  His name is Mr. Saylor, not Taylor.
>
>everything ain't a conspiracy . . .
>
>DC
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Donovan Arnold
>To: tsaylor at tds.net ; vision2020 at whale2.fsr.net
>Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Troy Lions candidate forum
>
>
>I am sorry, but most these forums seem really biased in format.
>
>For one, it was intentionally designed to have both forums at the same time
>because the Republicans are boycotting the Moscow Civic Association forum
>and then having the one in Troy, which usually leans Republican, at the 
>same
>time. Anyone with common sense can see this.
>
>Second, most the forums are set up by Representative Trail.
>
>Third, there are way to many forums, so candidates don't have the time to 
>do
>door to door campaigning. Most these forums only have about 4-20 voters and
>take about 4 hours of the candidate time in preparation, travel, and time
>there. They could easily contact more voters if they went door-to-door and
>spoke in person.
>
>Fourth, forums like the Chamber of Commerce, questions were filtered, and
>collected first, in writing, by Paul Kimmel, who clearly has a stake and is
>biased in an election.
>
>Finally, they usually allow Gary Schroeder, Senate Republican, to speak as 
>a
>candidate who doesn't have an opponent, but will not allow Bill Thompson,
>County Prosecutor Democrat, to have a seat. Then Schroeder is allowed to 
>use
>his time to attack Mark Solomon and other candidates. So Mark is unfairly
>ganged up on.
>
>If these were non-biased forums, an equal number of Democrats and
>Republicans would be on the moderating committee. Candidates would not be
>allowed to stump for another candidate if they didn't have an opponent.
>Forums would not clash with one another, they would at least be 3 hours
>apart for the safety and security of the candidates and to allow candidates
>to speak to voters afterwards.
>
>Not to knock down some of the people that have worked to to set these 
>forums
>up, but I have seen better and less biased forums on the high school and
>undergraduate college level.
>
>Seriously, anyone can see this forum is an "In your face" to the MCA and
>strongly favors one side of the fence.
>
>Mr. Taylor didn't even mention the conflict in time schedules until someone
>pointed it out, hoping nobody would notice, and then switching the blame to
>the MCA's.
>
>Thankfully, we have some bright people on this serverlist that catch the
>unfair behavior of others and will point things like meeting times
>conflicting.
>
>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
>
>
>
> >From: <tsaylor at tds.net>
> >To: <vision2020 at whale2.fsr.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Troy Lions candidate forum Date: Thu, 21 Oct 
>2004
> >17:24:46 +0000
> >
> >Art Deco wrote:
> >
> >Why is this scheduled for the same time as the MCA forum?
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------
> >
> >I believe the opposite is the case: the MCA forum was scheduled for the
> >same time as the Troy Lions forum.
> >
> >Nonetheless, the Troy Lions have worked closely with MCA organizers to
> >coordinate candidate appearances that night. Double-scheduling is an 
>issue
> >only with the commissioner and sheriff races; the state representative
> >candidates are not scheduled to appear in the MCA event on the 25th.
> >
> >The mutually agreed schedule for the 25th is as follows. Times indicate
> >candidate appearances in Troy:
> >
> >7:00-7:25 Tom Stroschein / Jeff Harkins
> >7:25-7:50 Jack Nelson / Linda Pike
> >7:50-8:15 Tom Trail / Mark Solomon
> >8:15-8:40 Shirley Ringo / Earl Bennett
> >8:40-9:05 Jeff Crouch / Wayne Rausch
> >
> >Under this schedule, commissioner candidates will appear in Troy, then
> >drive to Moscow for the MCA event. Sheriff candidates will appear in 
>Moscow
> >and then drive to Troy.
> >
> >Candidates agree the Troy Lions forum is a key element in reaching rural
> >voters and constituents, which may be underserved by virtue of geography.
> >We are pleased they are willing to accomodate both events through 
>creative
> >scheduling, and appreciate the cooperation of the MCA organizers.
> >
> >
> >Tom Saylor
> >President, Troy Lions Club
> >troylions at tds.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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