[Vision2020] Unalienable Rights: Historic Precedence
Tbertruss at aol.com
Tbertruss at aol.com
Sun Nov 21 11:27:36 PST 2004
Wayne et. al.
Wayne, you dodged my central question!? Do you believe in "unalienable
Rights?" Even one "unalienable Right?"
Ethical systems have many theoretical problems, as do many fields of human
thought, but this does not stop us from using these imperfect systems! The
concept of "unalienable Rights" is fraught with numerous theoretical problems
but... Let me explain why I think we still can use this concept in a manner with
enough precision and practical use to be of value, even if it does not meet the
tests of ultimate philosophical consistency, empirical evidence, and freedom
from ambiguity or vagueness.
Of course I know you think this concept impossible to define well enough to
give a good answer, but ... let's put it in specific terms that can be
answered, perhaps.
Is there any sort of treatment of another human being that you would condemn
under all circumstances based on some sort of moral or ethical principle? For
example, I reject the death penalty when there are other means of protecting
society from a dangerous person. Keep in mind this does not mean I reject
killing in self defense or in war in some cases. But on this one issue I
believe, without exception, that the death penalty is wrong, when carried out under
controlled circumstances that amount in my mind to cold blooded murder! I want
it abolished by all governments, tribes, underground crime networks, etc. I
have a long complex moral and political argument for why I think the death
penalty should be abolished. This comes close to a practical definition of one
"unalienable Right" I would advocate, the right to "life," even when revenge or
justice appears to dictate otherwise.
The idea of "first principles," and the difficulties involved, extends to
nearly every field of human thought. Mathematics, physics, religion, ethics,
law, etc., all seek fundamental principles or equations which can provide a
foundation for a whole system of thought. However, this does not mean these fields
of human thought do not continue to operate in people's lives, however
incomplete or flawed they may be. We still use Newtonian Physics, though its first
principles are flawed, and Relativity has replaced it as a more complete and
perfect system. But to launch a satellite into orbit, Newtonian Physics does
the job nicely.
To compare this to Ethics, though our Ethical principles may be flawed and
hard to define,
they are still of use to guide actions and provide a framework to debate
moral choices. Of course Ethical principles may not offer the empirical precision
when applied that we can derive from launching a satellite using flawed
Newtonian Physics, so my analogy is not perfect.
When we are dealing with Ethics, though, this impacts everyone's life in a
direct manner that is not trivial, nor can someone say the problems are just
academic, or are only for scientists or technologists, etc. Everyone uses some
sort of ethical principles in their life, everyone is a moral philosopher,
whether they admit it or like it. And the application of these "principles"
impacts all of us as we impact each other based on our moral choices.
Though the concept of "unalienable Rights" may be difficult or impossible to
define in terms that all will agree upon, or even in terms that always make
good logical and empirical sense, I still think the concept of value, like
Newtonian Physics is of value, though any physicist will tell you how flawed it is!
And furthermore, that "unalienable Rights" can be put to good use to try to
establish firm guidelines to create a better world. Of course this cuts both
ways, because the concept can be used to also support extreme cruelty and
killing. Those we are convinced with no shred of doubt they have the ultimate
moral laws of the universe are sometimes inclined to use brutal methods of
forcing these values upon others.
I still like the idea, however flawed, that we all have an "unalienable
Right" to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
Ted Moffett
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