[Vision2020] Conspiracy?

Sun Nov 7 21:43:18 PST 2004

OK, one more time, lets see if we can get this clear before I get another
'gospel according to Donovan' lecture.
No, the people called into two radio programs and one on a TV program. I
have heard this before on a web site that lying to pollsters would help to
skew their stats so much that they would be so wrong that people would learn
not to listen to them. I only mentioned it because of the questions about
the polls as compared to what the vote showed. It could be that the people
at the exit polls just lied. I very much disapprove of lying for any reason.
Yes, I voted for Bush because what ever else he is he is decisive, its just
one of many good reasons. Bush didn't have his entourage take his cell phone
from him so he would stop calling 100 people to help make a decision. Yes,
it was for moral values. He has a strong religion and follows it, unlike
Kerry who said he would take his faith to the office of president except he
doesn't really follow it. It is a very popular decision this year. The
democratic party would do well to shave back the extreme part of the party.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
To: <pkraut at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Conspiracy?

> Pat Kraut writes, "It was the people who had been called or asked as they
> exited the polls that I heard on two radio programs and one on a TV talk
> show. They all said that they had not been
> honest with the caller or the person outside the polls."
>
> I see, so news programs randomly called people on the phone, the same
people
> that were called and asked their opinion when exiting the polls or polled
at
> home on the phone, and they gave their honest answer that they lied, and
> that is the bases of your belief that all people were lying about their
> previous answers to the pollsters? And you believe these people? And you
> admire these people for lying? And you voted for Bush to uphold moral
> values? And you call me dense?
>
> Also, what are the odds that a Republican Senator or President never loses
> on a Diebolt e-machine that doesn't leave a paper trail?
>
> Take Care,
>
> Donovan J Arnold
>
> >From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> >To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Conspiracy?
> >Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:53:35 -0800
> >
> >
> >Donovan: I cannot believe how dense you can be. It was the people who had
> >been called or asked as they exited the polls that I heard on two radio
> >programs and one on a TV talk show. They all said that they had not been
> >honest with the caller or the person outside the polls. The only way to
> >stop
> >this nonsense it to make the polls so unreliable that no one listens
> >anymore. It isn't honest and I don't approve of lying but I do admire
their
> >audacity. So, some of your questions about who people voted for are not
> >valid. It is amusing that you are all so sure that all the votes are
wrong.
> >I have to wonder how you would have reacted if Kerry had won. I don't
> >approve of our voting system in some states either but I'm not willing to
> >jump to the conclusion that it was skewed to Bush. It is just possible
that
> >some of Kerrys votes are not valid and Bush won by even a wider margin.
> >PK
> >
> >
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Conspiracy?
> >
> >
> > > I have heard on several talk shows (both radio and TV) that those
being
> > > called or asked about their vote are lying so that polls will stop
being
> > > used. An exercise in futility I fear, but food for thought.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jim Meyer" <m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com>
> > > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 12:18 PM
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] Conspiracy?
> > >
> > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > For those of you into election conspiracy theories, read this:
> > > > http://www.alternet.org/election04/20416/
> > > >
> > > > Of course it is plausible, but it is also almost too scary to even
> > > > contemplate.
> > > >
> > > > Jim Meyer
> > > >
> > > >
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